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Old Saturday 21st October 2017, 10:49   #176
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I could hazard a guess. However Campkins Cameras on Kings Parade do Hawkes I think. You'll get a much better answer by taking the Tento along and checking for yourself.

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Old Tuesday 14th November 2017, 20:28   #177
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'spongey focussing'

The focus wheel on Hawke Frontier ED 8x43, received last week, had around 5 degrees of free play. The seller kindly checked two other new examples and said they were the same, so I just returned them for a refund.

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Old Wednesday 15th November 2017, 08:41   #178
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Chris,

I do recall a couple of Hawkes demo binoculars on their show stand had a little focus free play, but in past years they seemed to be the exception rather than the rule. A batch problem? Sorry they didn't work out for yoi.

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Old Wednesday 15th November 2017, 10:34   #179
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Hi Typo, yes a pity but only having one pair at the moment the only way is to buy some more!

The Hawke 8x43 was to supplement or replace a current Pentax 8x32 DCF ED, the still wider view to make them a little easier to use. Otherwise the Hawke was a good match and very nice indeed, excellent value too. From a quick look the main difference was a bit more distortion away from the centre.

Instead I have ordered porros Orion Ultraview 8x42, which has been well documented in the forum, and 'waterproof' Celestron Landscout 7x35, mentioned occasionally but not reviewed anywhere as far as I can see. Looks good on paper but will report. Oh and I also spotted a nice looking Avocet De-Luxe 8x30, '446 ft at 1000yds' but suppose its age and lack of eye relief? for wearing glasses may render it impractical.

The Orion sounds ideal and Celestron looks equivalent to lovely/quirky Nikon 7x35 Action Extreme - with some hope it might even be a bit better.
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Old Wednesday 15th November 2017, 13:45   #180
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Chris,

Sorry, I've never seen the Orion or the Avocet. I can't remember if it was a Landscout I tried on the Celestron stand at Birdfair or another of their porros, but whichever it was, it wasn't in the same league as the Nikon EX or even the current Aculon. Hope you can try before you buy.

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Old Wednesday 15th November 2017, 15:39   #181
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Right, thanks David but on visits to an RSPB shop I did not find anything in that bracket to fit the bill. When I read old posts in this forum or Cloudynights things of interest tend to be out of production and unavailable. At least in UK, Orion Ultraview 8x42 is like that, even at Microglobe which I reckon has an excellent range. However, by coincidence it was on offer at Amazon uk, while their reasonable charges for duty and shipping made it the same as it is in USA.

Amazon also seemed more convenient than a trip to London just to try out Celestron Landscout 7x35. Pretty inexpensive and should be economical to return by post if necessary. I am planning to let my better half test it. Just now she discovered the self extinguishing properties of our kettle, by filling it right up, which others might not have thought of doing. If there is a weakness in any product she will find it

PS Avocet De-Luxe is a Swift-like item, just out of curiosity because it is 'vintage', but said to be in working order. The other attached images are Celestron Landscout and Orion Ultraview.
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Old Wednesday 15th November 2017, 16:13   #182
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I picked up an Avocet 20x50 scope in an auction job lot a few years ago. It was a bit battered and needed a clean, but turned out to be quite impressive optically. That binocular looks in excellent condition.

Note, Microglobe do not have that Landscout in stock, so it would be a wasted trip to London. I know there have been grumbles about their handling of orders for out of stock items.

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Old Wednesday 15th November 2017, 17:01   #183
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mmm good point...and yes in pictures the Avocet looks very clean. It is marked 'HT2580', and maybe 'Japan'. Can you tell when it might have been made?

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Old Wednesday 15th November 2017, 17:28   #184
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I really don't know anything about these older models, but that looks like a JTII sticker whjch I think might have been phased out by the eighties. If you can find a stamped JB or JE mark it would tell you who made it.
http://home.europa.com/~telscope/jbcode.txt

There are a couple of collectors on the forum that might be able to tell you more.

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Old Saturday 18th November 2017, 15:32   #185
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David,

The Avocet and Landscout 7x35 were both excellent, exceeding expectations so have posted impressions for them.

The Orion Ultraview 8x42 was also unreasonably good, except that it was out of collimation so had to go back. The Amazon Global Store delivered them in a week but on the evidence of a tear in the box and second-hand sellotape they were had apparently been re-issued by the seller...not so good but Amazon has offered a full refund when confirmed, and to pay the cost of return, while the service itself was excellent.
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Old Sunday 19th November 2017, 14:26   #186
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Chris,

I did have a look at your reports. I still have a nagging suspicion that it was the Landscout I tried and wasn't particularly impressed at the time. Your comment that it wasn't as sharp as the Pentax rings true, but your your comparison with the Nikon EX isn't what I remember. I'll look out for it when I next get to a shop or show.

The Avocet looks a bit of a gem. If there is any comparison at all to that little scope I bought, it really should be up with your Pentax for centre sharpness. Shame about the ER though.

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Old Sunday 19th November 2017, 15:03   #187
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David,

Thank you. Yes I probably exaggerated any deficiencies of the Nikon EX 7x35, and now have not even got one. When one of our daughters had the choice of those I had at the time I was a bit sorry she took it away with her! Certainly a nice piece of kit...
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