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Old Thursday 11th December 2008, 20:35   #1
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Satinbirds - Cnemophilidae

As the new Clements update now accepts the family Cnemophilidae I included them in the Passeriformes and filled in some info today. The family consists of three species which were formerly placed in the Paradisaeidae (Birds-of-paradise). Molecular research showed that they are not closely related to the Birds-of-Paradise.

Now to my problem:
All three species were called Birds-of-paradise of course. Clements lists them now as Satinbirds. H&M lists them as Cnemophilus. IOC also as Satinbirds, but some with different names (eg Loria's Satinbird as Velvet Satinbird).
I would propose to rename the articles with the Clements' Satinbird version as they are no Birds-of-paradise. This may not be according our consensus, but I struggle to see any consensus here.

Any thoughts?

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Old Friday 12th December 2008, 04:37   #2
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Tricky one this - I am happy to rename these Satinbirds, but I have a reservation about using the Clements names as it looks like they just retained their old prefixes (Loria's, Crested, Yellow-breasted) rather than going with the IOC names. I suspect that the Cornell team has not really researched these names, and that the IOC names may be better "consensus" names (local specialists consulted??). It may be worth doing a bit more research ourselves before we change from what we have (or we can wait to see what Clements 2009 and H&M 4 do).

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