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Warbler ID? (1 Viewer)
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Dougie Preston
I live for this S**T
Looks to be a Radde's to my eye, but there are quite a few warblers that I'm unfamiliar with in that part of the world...
Cristian Mihai
Cristian Mihai
I really don't know which species is, but the pic is a great one!
anonymous_guy
Guy R.H. Miller
Thanks Dougie, Cristian.........., my thought is a Dusky, but wondered about the dark line above the eye
deborah4
Well-known member
That was what I was thinking but never seen one myself so didn't want to make any comment for fear of being shot down for armchair birding!!! Excellent photo though.
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Dusky Warbler here:
http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=showpicture&picture_id=21984
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anonymous_guy
Guy R.H. Miller
Cristian Mihai
Cristian Mihai
Yes, nothing new about the bird, but something about the photographer...:t:
MKinHK
Mike Kilburn
An interesting bird - it looks thick-legged, but pointy-billed. The olive tones look better for Radde's and it appears to show a pale wing panel, but the super looks more distinct in front of the eye than a typical Radde's. Also, Dusky can be pretty variable.
And with intermediate birds you also need to think about the rare Yellow-streaked Warbler, which is intermediate in size and bill size. Having read the article separating these species in the 1994 HK Bird Report, there is plenty here to suggest Yellow-streaked (and this article suggests Dusky does not show a dark line above the super, while Yellow-streaked and Radde's can do, but its a difficult one to call.
Did you hear it call - this is a good way to separate all three species - Dusky has a loud "tak", YS a bunting-ike "tzic" and radde's a softer "quip"
Any more pix of this interesting bird
Cheers
Mike
And with intermediate birds you also need to think about the rare Yellow-streaked Warbler, which is intermediate in size and bill size. Having read the article separating these species in the 1994 HK Bird Report, there is plenty here to suggest Yellow-streaked (and this article suggests Dusky does not show a dark line above the super, while Yellow-streaked and Radde's can do, but its a difficult one to call.
Did you hear it call - this is a good way to separate all three species - Dusky has a loud "tak", YS a bunting-ike "tzic" and radde's a softer "quip"
Any more pix of this interesting bird
Cheers
Mike
anonymous_guy
Guy R.H. Miller
Thanks Mike.
Sorry only pics I got........, can try again on saturday...., it was around me and Neil all morning but only popped up for a second and was gone.
The sound was rather harsh, but to say now whether or not it was a "tak" or a "tzik" sitting here in front of my computer....., hmmmm.
However Neil was doing some video during the morning & may have caught the sound..., I'll get onto him.
phil baber
Clipped Wing
Guy,
The supercilium is whiter at the front, buff-brown at the rear.It is also broader after the eye, narrower and well-defined before it. This being more indicative of Dusky.
Radde's tends to show supercilium whiter at the rear and warmish buff tinged in front of the eye, and less sharply defined here compared to Dusky.
The bill on your bird is finer and more pointed than i would expect on Radde's, which would appear thicker, shorter and more 'blunt' at its tip.
So i would strongly suggest Dusky Warbler.
But my! What SUPERB photos!
Nice one!!
The supercilium is whiter at the front, buff-brown at the rear.It is also broader after the eye, narrower and well-defined before it. This being more indicative of Dusky.
Radde's tends to show supercilium whiter at the rear and warmish buff tinged in front of the eye, and less sharply defined here compared to Dusky.
The bill on your bird is finer and more pointed than i would expect on Radde's, which would appear thicker, shorter and more 'blunt' at its tip.
So i would strongly suggest Dusky Warbler.
But my! What SUPERB photos!
Nice one!!
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anonymous_guy
Guy R.H. Miller
Thanks Mike & Phil....... I will see if I can get a sound byte on Saturday just to make sure.
marie b
Well-known member
I have been hemming and hawing over this quite a bit, but I tend to agree with Phil Baber. In addition to his points, the 2 most salient features in favor of Dusky for me are the black-tipped pale lower mandible and the pale undertail coverts -- which should be a darker buffy/cinnamony color on Radde's. The main feature against Dusky would be the overall coloring -- not the usual drab gray/brown. That may be partly due to ambient light of the location.
Agree the photos are great!:t:
Marie
Agree the photos are great!:t:
Marie
Tib78
Well-known member
Just like Deborah, I don't want to be shot down for "armchair birding", because I don't have any expereince with those Eastern phylloscopus, but have a look at the link below...looks like Yellow-streaked warbler is not so easily dismissed:
http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?action=searchresult&Bird_ID=1830
http://orientalbirdimages.org/searc...=1830&Bird_Image_ID=24465&Bird_Family_ID=&p=2
http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?action=searchresult&Bird_ID=1830
http://orientalbirdimages.org/searc...=1830&Bird_Image_ID=24465&Bird_Family_ID=&p=2
marie b
Well-known member
Ahhhhhhh, yes, well,.....absolutely possible........I'm afraid, .......just that bill again;.....and actually the undertail coverts again -- should be similar to Radde's, but I could be swayed (gotta look up that HK report, remember seeing it sometime ago).
:smoke: Marie
I agree with your comments in post #8, and I also agree with Phil and Marie in that it doesn't look like a Radde's.
Here's a bird that has been labelled Yellow-streaked:
http://globaltwitcher.auderis.se/photo/003677.JPG
Frankly I don't know how it can be separated from one, they look quite similar (there are more images of Yellow-streaked Warblers for example at Orientalbirdimages, but they look a bit less similar to the subject bird).
Edit: I cross-posted with Tib and Marie...
marie b
Well-known member
Very pale upper mandible......but....
