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Old Friday 15th May 2009, 22:20   #101
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Hi neil

Just been out tonight with my new Lumix, first impresion was that it is 'ok' I think I need to get the settings adjusted.
It does not appear that you can shoot in A and macro at the same time? (as you can with the 8400).
I would be very grateful if you could list out the settings tha I should be using.
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You will use similar settings as with the 8400.
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Old Saturday 16th May 2009, 00:59   #102
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Just been out tonight with my new Lumix, first impresion was that it is 'ok' I think I need to get the settings adjusted.
It does not appear that you can shoot in A and macro at the same time? (as you can with the 8400).
I would be very grateful if you could list out the settings tha I should be using.
Thanks in advance.
Martin,
I haven't done a test on the Macro Mode to see if it makes a difference as you can't have Aperture and Macro at the same time. The dedicated Macro Mode is designed from max DOF ( high f stops )so maybe not suitable for digiscoping.
SETTINGS
Aperture Priority
iso 400 (I like the Shutter Speed to be around 1/500th second or more )
Continuous Shot
AFS - this is faster than AFC but I haven't tested accuracy of the two.
Film Mode STANDARD Contrast +1 Sharpening +1
Aspect Ratio 4:3
Picture Size LARGE
Quality JPEG ( switch to RAW in tricky lighting as it's slower )
Metering Mode SPOT
Stabilizer Mode 1 ( I also haven't tested this function)
Self-Timer 2 seconds

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Old Saturday 16th May 2009, 02:21   #103
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The G1 comes into it's own on close up , fast paced action, like the birds coming down to water in the local park on a hot day. Switch it to iso 400 and Jpeg only and it will shoot away until the card is full to make sure you don't miss any of the action. I was varying the iso but able to get speeds up to 1/1250th second at iso400. Neil

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Old Saturday 16th May 2009, 03:18   #104
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nice job Neil. The perspective looks like you were at water level!
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Old Saturday 16th May 2009, 10:27   #105
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I've finally found a digiscoping use for my old Leica M lenses ( for
my M6). I picked up a Leica M to Micro Four Thirds and a Nikon to
Micro Four Thirds adapter for my Panasonic G1 today. I tested the 35
mm,50 mm and 90 mm lenses on the G1 ( camera only ) . It was too
dark when I finished so I only had a quick look at the setup on the
scope ( see photo ). It looks like the 35/1.4 will be the one to use
but the 50/2.0 could also be ok. I'll try and get out tomorrow with
it but there is rain forecast for the next week.
Does anyone have idea whether it's better to increase the scope
eyepiece magnification or the lens magnification? I'll finally be
able to get back to some decent magnifications over 2000 mm with a
top quality lens. Neil.
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Old Saturday 16th May 2009, 11:01   #106
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Unlike a digicam lens, a dSLR lens should have a much larger physical aperture opening than the largest exit pupil in a fieldscope eyepiece, so I would bet increasing lens focal length is the way to go.

When I still had the Nikon ED82 with the 30x, 50x, and 75x DS eyepieces, I tried to use it with a 50mm AF lens on the Nikon D90. Only the 30x came close to giving me enough light to see through the viewfinder. Still too dim for AF to work though.

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Old Saturday 16th May 2009, 18:12   #107
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Hi Neil,

Absolutely Stunning Photos,Something I,m sure a lot of us would like to Achieve.

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Old Saturday 16th May 2009, 19:08   #108
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Hi Neil,

Great photos with your new camera/scope!

Thanks for posting on your new setup with the Panasonic Lumix G1. Only needing to buy the camera since I own the Swaro STS80HD, SW 30x and DCA is tempting.

I read the firmware update let you use a 55mm prime lens on the camera and still AF. You mentioned a zoom eyepiece/zoom lens would require a rail to adjust. Is the rail adapter you have custom made?

Is this the rail your using? (The green section I can see on the bottom)?

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Hi Neil,

Great photos with your new camera/scope!

Thanks for posting on your new setup with the Panasonic Lumix G1. Only needing to buy the camera since I own the Swaro STS80HD, SW 30x and DCA is tempting.

I read the firmware update let you use a 55mm prime lens on the camera and still AF. You mentioned a zoom eyepiece/zoom lens would require a rail to adjust. Is the rail adapter you have custom made?

Is this the rail your using? (The green section I can see on the bottom)?

http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.ph...9&postcount=20

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The Firmware update allows some primes to AF eg the Olympus 25/2.8 Pancake (using the Panasonic adapter ) . Panasonic should release a 20/1.7 mm lens this year which should be good for digiscoping on zoom eyepieces.
This is a better photo of my balance bar setup. A friend makes most of my "stuff". All you need is a piece of flat steel or aluminium tube and have some 5/8th inch bolt holes drilled though it. Using the Manfrotto Sliding Plate for the camera just makes it easier to slide the camera backwards and forwards but if you cut a slot in the bar you don't need this. Neil.
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Old Sunday 17th May 2009, 11:23   #110
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I took the G1 out with the Leica 35/1.4 lens today. I'm using it on the balance bar as I don't have an adapter ring for the Leica thread yet. I'm quite happy with the results and will check out the 50 mm and 90 mm in the next few days.
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I'll bet that Leica never dreamed their 35mm Summilux would be used for bird photography!
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The Firmware update allows some primes to AF eg the Olympus 25/2.8 Pancake (using the Panasonic adapter ) . Panasonic should release a 20/1.7 mm lens this year which should be good for digiscoping on zoom eyepieces.
This is a better photo of my balance bar setup. A friend makes most of my "stuff". All you need is a piece of flat steel or aluminium tube and have some 5/8th inch bolt holes drilled though it. Using the Manfrotto Sliding Plate for the camera just makes it easier to slide the camera backwards and forwards but if you cut a slot in the bar you don't need this. Neil.
Thanks for the photo and description. I have medical issues at the time that prevent me from using my Canon 40D and 100-400mm from the car window. (Have a bad back at the time)

Maybe sitting in the back yard and shooting the birds up in a few tall trees (Ash) would cheer me up. One huge Ash tree is dying and one very healthy.

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Adding a teleconverter onto the G1

In order to make more use of my sharpest short lens, the Nikon 20/2.8 D , I added an old Nikon 1.6x teleconverter into the mix. Not the sharpest of teles and my Nikon 1.4x would do a slightly better job but I'll test that later. Down to the local park to test on the usual suspects. I'm impressed with the results at 15 - 35 metres in good light this morning. The lcd screen makes it easy to Manually Focus.
The range using the Swaro zoom was 1200 - 2000 on the night herons. For the flamingo dozing I bumped the zoom up to 60x or 3840 mm .
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At the same time I re-tested the Olympus 25/2.8 Pancake lens using the Panasonic adapter. Auto Focus is possible this way if the camera is supported separately from the scope on a balance bar or universal type adapter. Same equipment and subjects as the previous post.
The fire hydrant is obviously not digiscoped.Neil


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Neil the eye & feather photo is one of the best bird photos I have seen in many a year,,

a large print of that would be spectacular,,

one of the best,,

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Yeah I second that, & given the magnification, that makes it even better.
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Thanks Derry and Rob. As you say the detail is pretty good and this is full frame. Digiscoping still has a part to play for closeup photography where you don't want or can't intrude into the birds comfort zone. With the new scopes and eyepieces coming out we should be able to improve the resolution captured by another 10%. I might test my Nikon D3 again on these subjects as a comparison. Neil.
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We have bitterns migrating through at the moment and this Yellow Bittern was hanging out near the edge of the main pond at the local park. It was nice to have the speed of AF of the G1 and I was able to stand back from the others with only 300 mm and still fill the frame. Neil.

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Good point Neil. I'm a medical mess at the time, have never been able to walk a known good birding trail.
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I took the G1 out onto the mudflats last week to see if there were any waders still left. I was a bit late for the incoming tide so I waiting 2 hours for the outgoing. I had never seen so much rubbish in the water which made photography even more difficult. When the waders started dropping back out to the mud to feed they were very active so I was glad to have the AF of the G1 and the Continuous Mode. It's difficult to use the P511/P6000 in these situations. The Terek Sandpipers run across the mud , twisting and turning and they mostly stop with their backs to you. The Sandpipers dart and stop , dart and stop with not much time to get AF and no time for manual focus (if you wear bi-focals as I do ). I was using the Olympus 25/2.8 Pancake lens so the AF was a little slower than the kit zoom ( which I had forgotten ) but still much faster than my other digicams.
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G1 kit zoom at distance

There are few waders left to see here and they tend to be a long way off at the high tide roost. These photos were take with the G1 and kit zoom on Wednesday this week at a distance of about 150 - 180 metres in hazy light.
Good enough for record purposes and the AF was reliable and fast despite the haze.
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The new mirrorless hybrid dslr Olympus e-p1 micro 4/3 camera is getting a lot of previews at the moment. Looks disappointing though with no viewfinder of any sorts and a low res 3" lcd screen at only 230,000 dots.

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>Panasonic Lumix G1 and kit zoom lens on Swarovski STS80HD scope and Sw45x eyepiece and >DCA adapter

Hi Neil,

Have you been using the Swaro 45x eyepiece more frequently with your Panasonic Lumix G1? Have you found one setup you like the best when not knowing what your going to shoot for distance and light conditions?

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I have been persevering with my G1 just lately and my results have improved (although not as much as I would like).Clearly looking at some of the shots on this thread the G1 is a good piece of kit.
I use a Kowa 823 and 32x lens.
I also have a nikon coolpix P6000.
The kittiwake, razorbill and pied wagtail were taken with the G1 and the herring gull was taken with my P6000.
It appears that myP6000 images are much sharper (which would suggest to me that the problem does not lie with the scope).
I'm not entirely certain that I have all the modes correctly set.Would anybody care to comment/provide some more information on autofocus settings etc?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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>Panasonic Lumix G1 and kit zoom lens on Swarovski STS80HD scope and Sw45x eyepiece and >DCA adapter

Hi Neil,

Have you been using the Swaro 45x eyepiece more frequently with your Panasonic Lumix G1? Have you found one setup you like the best when not knowing what your going to shoot for distance and light conditions?

Thanks,
The 30x is my main eyepiece that I use with most cameras but with the G1 kit zoom it only gives me a range equivalent to around 1000 mm which is not really a digiscoping range . I will get better results with a 500/4 + D90/D3 + 1.4x . I always have the 45x with me and use it from the hides or where shooting at distance. I shoot a lot of herons/egrets ( very common here ) and so I prefer the 30x for this to leave some space around. It's not a choice based on light conditions as I can bump the iso up to 800/1600 if necessary.
I would prefer to have an AF 35mm lens with the zoom eyepiece to cover a wider range .
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