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Old Saturday 11th July 2009, 16:57   #1
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wildlife in graphite

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I'm a wildlife artist from the south coast of england specializing in graphite drawings of birds and mammals.After concentrating on animal art for the last 10 years or so ive got bored with big cats and other exotica and returned to my roots drawing british birds and animals.I'm a bit rusty with my birding skills but luckily ive got some wonderful birding spots nearby and i'm really relishing re-aquainting myself with the art.
My particular favourites are waterbirds and i love trying to portray my local birds in their natural enviroment.
For the moment ive attached one image and hope to post more soon once ive re-sized them.If anyone would like to view more work,most of my new stuff is on my blog.
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Old Saturday 11th July 2009, 17:07   #2
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bloody fantastic mate,this is very good,hope to see more mark...
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Old Saturday 11th July 2009, 17:12   #3
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many thanks mark,hope to have some more by early next week

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Old Saturday 11th July 2009, 17:36   #4
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Wow - that's one to gasp at! Super work Clive and a huge welcome to the best bit of Birdforum. Loking forward to seeing more.
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Old Saturday 11th July 2009, 18:22   #5
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Excellent work Clive and it's good to see you in the best bit! Your gallery website has some very impressive stuff too and I'm certainly looking forward to seeing more of the Brit birds.

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the wonders of a good graphite work never fails to satisfy my eyes....the range of values and textures is just wonderful here. hope to see more soon.
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[quote=timwootton;1526813]Wow - that's one to gasp at! Super work Clive and a huge welcome to the best bit of Birdforum.[quote]

thanks tim,ive been lurking for a while,love your work,very inspiring.

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hi mike and thanks for your comments,thoroughly enjoying the artwork here,all very inspiring and helping to re-ignite my passion for birding
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Wow...................speachless! fantastic.
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Hi Clive & welcome , had a look at your site superb work looking forward to seeing more.
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i am a complete technophobe so i hope these images are ok.i managed to download a free image resizer so here goes.these are all completed using graphite and can take upto 8 weeks to complete some of the more detailed images.this selection more accurately reflects my love of waterbirds and i am hoping to be able to do more of them as they make drawing a joy and free's me from the drudgery of endless big cats!.
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Wow -- very impressive! Welcome to the forum!
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Welcome to the forum, and what an entrance!

The Moorhen is breathtaking, an immense tour de force with regard to the detail involved, without detracting from a superb composition. The treatment of the snow is masterful.
A special word for the Oystercatchers, has it all, really well drawn and full of acute observation....
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Welcome to the forum, and what an entrance!

The Moorhen is breathtaking, an immense tour de force with regard to the detail involved, without detracting from a superb composition. The treatment of the snow is masterful.
A special word for the Oystercatchers, has it all, really well drawn and full of acute observation....
Can't argue with that! Love the oiks, it's just as we see 'em and you are clearly, a master draughtsman.

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thanks jo,buzzard12 and mike. i really appreciate your comments especially bearing in mind the knowledge of your subject that you all bring.I'm really a novice birdwatching wise as i'm only just re-discovering a childhood passion for birds but i love drawing them and hope to learn a lot here.

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These are all superb, but my favourite piece of work is the descriptive mark-making on the preening goose's neck; that turn and change of planes is brilliantly done and so perfectly natural. Ace!
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many thanks tim,the preening goose was the one that gave me the most trouble artistically speaking and the particular bit you mention seemed to take forever to get looking right to my eye and so i'm chuffed someone with your experience thinks i got it right...phew!
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The Moorhen is breathtaking, an immense tour de force with regard to the detail involved, without detracting from a superb composition. The treatment of the snow is masterful.
I went cold looking at it - so superbly done is the whole.
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Welcome to the forum - I'll start off by being honest, the first pic made me think, it's very nice and technically very good, but it's just another barn owl (perhaps the most depicted bird), the second batch made me shut my mouth in admiration! Great stuff, these are more than just laborious work for highly detailed results that bear no resemblznce to the living thing, these are living, and what's good is that each of these pictures seems to send me back to a moment I've seen.
Hope all that makes sense, still not finished my coffee this morning so brain a little slow to catch up.
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Very impressive Clive,

I'm a bit with Nick in my reaction to the first barn owl drawing. I always find that graphite work tends to stay too much in just the midtones for my taste. But as I look at your other work, and then back again at the barn owl, I see that's not the case. The drawings have a real vibrancy to them. So I guess it pays not to go on first impressions but really take a good look around!!

By the way I tried your links to your blog and website. I got to the blog alright, and much enjoyed it, but I got an error with the website. Is it possible that it's got a typo in it? Sure doesn't look that way. But I keep getting an error.

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I went cold looking at it - so superbly done is the whole.
many thanks,it was certainly cold getting the reference!
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the second batch made me shut my mouth in admiration! Great stuff, these are more than just laborious work for highly detailed results that bear no resemblznce to the living thing, these are living, and what's good is that each of these pictures seems to send me back to a moment I've seen.
many thanks nick,i do love detail but as you rightly point out it has to be about the living bird and unless intended as illustrational art it has to be in the context of a believeable observation.the birds i choose to portray are the ones that a relatively novice birder like myself can relate to and the ones most likely to have been seen,my goal being to show the beauty of even the relatively 'ordinary' birds.
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The drawings have a real vibrancy to them.
By the way I tried your links to your blog and website. I got to the blog alright, and much enjoyed it, but I got an error with the website. Is it possible that it's got a typo in it?
many thanks ken,your observation about graphite work often being a bit mid-toney or flat is quite valid,i think a lot of pencil work is exactly that but over the many years ive been working in graphite i developed layering techniques and this combined with acute observation of shape,form and lighting helps to produce a convincingly natural look.
glad you enjoyed the blog,i'm fairly new at it so hopefully it'll get better!.i'm really not sure whats going on with the website link i'll have to ask someone who understands computers! but in the meantime you can manually type the same address in as it is correct.

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my goal being to show the beauty of even the relatively 'ordinary' birds.
Now that's a goal I share, that's why I often paint 'ordinary' birds.

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many thanks ken,your observation about graphite work often being a bit mid-toney or flat is quite valid,i think a lot of pencil work is exactly that but over the many years ive been working in graphite i developed layering techniques and this combined with acute observation of shape,form and lighting helps to produce a convincingly natural look.
glad you enjoyed the blog,i'm fairly new at it so hopefully it'll get better!.i'm really not sure whats going on with the website link i'll have to ask someone who understands computers! but in the meantime you can manually type the same address in as it is correct.

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Hi Clive,

I think you're right in that you've developed quite a technique that combined with your observation of shape, form and light creates a natural look and a vibrant one at that. Congratulations on doing so! I'm always happy to have my prejudices overthrown in this way.

Out of curiosity I looked at your link in your signature. Under the covers this is what is says:
<a href="http://www.clivemeredith.com" target="_blank">http://www.clivemeredith.com</a>

I think if you delete the from it, then it should work correctly. Sometimes this happens with cutting and pasting.

Ah, now I can reach your site..........

Ach! The hidden code doesn't show up on the web page so you can't see what I mean. I know why that is but it's another story. In any case you have some extra characters in your link. If you just put this it should work: <a href="http://www.clivemeredith.com">Clive Meredith Art or Something Simliar</a> it should work correctly.


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