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Old Friday 27th December 2002, 20:30   #1
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Notebooks

Always take a notebook with you when birding. Write down everything you see including numbers sexes & plumages. Include what the bird is doing eating etc. It is all very valuable when you take your notes home & write them up properly in a big book.

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Old Friday 27th December 2002, 21:17   #2
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Could not agree more CJ.

I bet more dont than do!

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Old Friday 27th December 2002, 21:52   #3
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I agree with you two. I can't possibly remember things without writing them down. I'm amazed that most people don't seem to have a notebook with them in hides. Perhaps they do it from memory once they get home.
 
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 13:41   #4
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But the next big question is... what brand of notebook to use? Which ones cope with bad weather? Should we use a pencil or a pen? Mark Cocker in his book 'Birders - Tales of a Tribe' (Essential reading for all birders) suggests Alwych notebooks are best. What do you use?
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 14:19   #5
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"Blackn Red" A6 no: C66655. A black hardbound book witha red spine. A pen is mor permanant. I use BTO codes for my birds. I also write notes about the weather & bird behaviour, These books are by far the best.

When I get home all my notes are copied into "The Bird Log"
& my Nature Diaries. Then they are put onto my bird database.
Ona good day it takes over five hours. I enjoy my recording work as much as my day's out in the field.

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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 14:36   #6
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Birders - Tales of a Tribe: what's it all about?
 
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 15:16   #7
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Twitchers, mainly, but it does contain some amusing anecdotes about birders in general. I believe it's now out in paperback.

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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 15:32   #8
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We have more notebooks then I actually know what to do with and invertitably we do not write things down when we are actually in the field.. when we are again in the car we do write down what we see, the GPS location and what weather and etc .
I usually have so much stuff with me, as I do not move without my camera binos and stuff.
Once back home I make notes in my Nat Graph Life List book and then do notations in my big bird info book that only myself could ever read...I enjoy recounting past experiences and find it informative to have some actual data from that particular day moment and type of day!
We like a hard cover smallish book with ring spine and non lined pages.. I use a pencil as it is easier to make some small pictoral things with that... (Lee is the artist not me)
 
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 16:15   #9
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Thanks for that T0ny.

Now we've sorted out which notebook and which pen/pencil to use, what about the problem of keeping everything dry? How do people get round the vagueries of the British weather?
 
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 16:23   #10
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Jacobi & Jayne do a birders notebook that not only has stiff plastic covers but the paper is also waterproof. The sell a pen to go with it and you can write in the pouring rain with no problem - no smudges or running and the paper does not tear when wet. They do 2 sizes too and the covers have generic bird diagrams noting the anatomy. Perfect
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 16:25   #11
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Peter - Mark Crockers book is the story of his life as a Birder from his youth up but also describes what we are like as a 'tribe'. The differences between twitchers and birders. It talks about many twitching trips and also stories about Cley, R A Richardson and so on. Required reading, I think, for all birders.
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 16:41   #12
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Thank you on both counts. I'll get on to it.
 
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 16:53   #13
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Hi Doug,

that sounds like just the book for me. I'm not familier with the maker, is it mail order?

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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 17:01   #14
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HI Mike. If you fill in the form on this page http://birdcare.com/bin/jjccat_form then they send you their brochure - you can order the notebooks from that. I have tried the small one and the pen and can recommend both highly. The bird food they sell is top quality but way overpriced I feel. Happy shopping.
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 17:03   #15
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I have a copy of Birders by Cocker I can lend out if anyone wants to read it.

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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 19:59   #16
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I also have a copy of 'Birders'. If anyone going to Slimbash wants to borrow then feel free.

The BTO also do a waterproof notebook (cover and pages) but the only drawback is it's yellow. They sell them in 2 sizes and a journal size as well.

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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 21:50   #17
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I'd love to borrow a copy of Birders. See you at Slimbridge.

Thanks a lot.
 
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Old Wednesday 1st January 2003, 21:56   #18
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It's yours Peter

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Old Thursday 2nd January 2003, 19:58   #19
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Tanks Doug,

Form duly filled in. Mentioned where I heard about them of course Steve!

Cheers,

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Old Sunday 26th January 2003, 22:27   #20
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Like Mr Oddie, I use the policeman's notebooks (a dawn raid on the nearest cop shop!) with a pencil down the sides and they are great cos they slip into your pockets no matter what you're wearing. Can be tricky to write at the bottom few lines in the field though however they are never too big for any shelf in hides. When I get home I type up my birding diary then print them out on large A5 address labels and stick them in a 'Black n Red' book with whatever pictures are necessary.
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Old Sunday 26th January 2003, 22:43   #21
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WHsmiths do a nice note book it has a plastic cover and a little elastic strip to keep it shut and it has enough room down the metal ringbinders to keep a sturdy pencil (I use a metal one woth retratable leads) its also A5 size so fits neatly into a pocket.
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Old Tuesday 28th January 2003, 18:44   #22
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last season i had a nice little plastic covered note book, so it was sort of water proof as long as you didnt drop in in a puddle. that cost 99p. then i had some reporters note books cheap, they were good but Santa brought me a dictaphone so now there is no stopping me. ok, so i cant draw with it but i didnt anway so no lose there. GPS is very handy too and i mark all my sights on mapsource (check out kazaa). i still carry a note book as a standby and put all the data into the PC when i get home or when i have time.
the main thing is to enjoy your day/night out, these little things just help a little.
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I guess this will give away my ignorance, but what is a "twitcher"?(Geez, I do hope I'm NOT one.....can't wait to find out!)
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Old Friday 18th April 2003, 13:43   #24
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I found a great piece of gear a few years ago that I have carried constantly with me since.

I think it's made by a company called Panjaro (but don't quote me on that, please): it's a field guide carrier and cover.

The cover is heavyduty cardboard covered in ripstop nylon. My National Geographic guide fits inside completely. There's a divider, then, and on the other side I can put a small (9x5?) legal pad. There's a pen/pencil holder along the spine on the inside, next to the notepad. The inside of section of the divider has a pocket where I stick whatever: used pages, brochures, map, etc.

It's held closed with a heavy velcro tab/strap (which is unfortunately a bit noisy being opened).

The spine has a nice heavy strap for carrying by hand, plus there's a long adjustable strap clipped to the top and bottom of the spine. The strap can be adjusted to carry over the shoulder, or lengthened to go over the head and across the chest (which is how I carry it, being pathetically slope-shouldered).

I've used it for several years now and just love it: between it and the shoulder harness I use for my binos, I'm quite strapped up when I'm out.

While mine is sized for a National Geographic guide (and thereby a little large for a Kaufman, Peterson or Golden), they have also come out with a larger version for those who insist on carrying a Sibley.

I find the Sibley too bulky for carrying in the field, but it's always in the car for reference, kept in an oversized waterproof paperback book cover made of ripstop nylon that zips closed.

I know you can find these covers (or you could in the past) in the catalog section at the back of the Bird Watcher's Digest. I think I paid about 30USD for mine, and it's been worth every penny. One initial purchase for the guide, then cheapo pens and pencils and cheapo legal pads as needed.

Works for me!
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I use a cheap A5 notebook from Woolies with a plastic cover--good value at 99p!
As I do a lot of my birding around my home I have numbered all the fields so if I see a turtle dove, say, I can write down that it was displaying in F17 or whatever.
Another advantage of carrying a notebook is to make notes when you find something unusual--either something you cannot identify or a bird that needs to be vetted by a rarities committee. I once found a Cetti's warbler near my home (a rarity in Surrey) and had to write a description on a small stub of paper because I'd forgotten my notebook--not ideal!
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