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Old Tuesday 18th August 2009, 21:13   #26
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Could you Colleen? It would be nice. Just to show alula a bit more prominently would be good.
I envy you the skill with a pencil. If I tried to draw this it would look horrid and there'd be masses of erasure marks.
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Old Wednesday 19th August 2009, 06:01   #27
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Dave B, the wing pictures are great, really show how the wing folds. I reckon that is just what we need for Opus. I'd be interested to see what else you have...lol

Colleen, your wing picture is just what I need, in order to label it up showing the feather tracts. Something for me to do tomorrow I think.
Hi Keith

Here are a few more

1. A basic topo map for beginners
2. Leg
3. Head
4,5. Showing how the scapulars can be held 'closed' or 'open'

More to come!

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Old Wednesday 19th August 2009, 06:08   #28
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Dave B, the wing pictures are great, really show how the wing folds. I reckon that is just what we need for Opus. I'd be interested to see what else you have...lol

Colleen, your wing picture is just what I need, in order to label it up showing the feather tracts. Something for me to do tomorrow I think.
Here's another lot. The photos are my own so not infringing any copyright! They aren't labeled because I add these on my powerpoints. The flight pics are in mud brown so that I can add generic wingbars, rump and tail patterns, etc.

Hope they are of help.

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That's really nice work Dave. Doing any painting?
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those are way cool Dave I'm learning a lot here


Keith, here is the revised pigeon wing hope, this one works

I read a little tract on the internet about how to draw wings today, it said if you want to do angels you should use a pigeon wing for a model not an albatross or gull... so I guess I'm all set now if I ever want to draw angels
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those are way cool Dave I'm learning a lot here


Keith, here is the revised pigeon wing hope, this one works

I read a little tract on the internet about how to draw wings today, it said if you want to do angels you should use a pigeon wing for a model not an albatross or gull... so I guess I'm all set now if I ever want to draw angels
Hi Colleen,

Had to read that twice to make sure you weren't talking about angles! It reminded me of the time long ago when I was wandering around Paris, a huge skinhead approached me to ask if I spoke English. Around his neck he had had tattooed the legend H.E.L.L.S. A.N.G.L.E.S - but you can bet I didn't laugh - or have the guts to point out the 'typo'! If you ask me, angels would have a lot more fun on gulls' wings, or even albatrosses' - now - how about a series Colleen?

Hi Tim

I did get out the pencils the other day but soon went back to the tablet! Just doing lots of waders at various stages of moult (that series of Curlew Sands if you remember that far back) for a seminar I'm doing in Oct. Not sure that qualifies as painting!

A recent lack of comment generally should not be taken as a lack of interest or admiration for all that goes on in this forum.

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That series of photos is excellent Dave, I wouldn't have thought of colouring photos to id feather tracts. Brilliant idea which I am going to copy on some of my photos.

Colleen the wing is now more or less exactly how I thought so I'll get to work labelling it up today.
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I dont want to tread on Colleen's toes but heres a couple to show the speculum.
Left out colour so you can use how you want.
Hope they are of help but you have taken on a lifetimes work with this.
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Here's another lot. The photos are my own so not infringing any copyright! They aren't labeled because I add these on my powerpoints. The flight pics are in mud brown so that I can add generic wingbars, rump and tail patterns, etc.

Hope they are of help.

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Yo Dave B- hope the wait for this autumn's returning waders is not proving too painful.
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Old Wednesday 19th August 2009, 16:18   #35
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I dont want to tread on Colleen's toes but heres a couple to show the speculum.
Left out colour so you can use how you want.
Hope they are of help but you have taken on a lifetimes work with this.
Thanks Arthur. they'll do nicely for the duck section I reckon.
I don't think it will be a lifetimes work..... and I'm not intending to do it all myself. Merely show the way, hoping that others will pick up the baton and run with it, so to speak.
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Well Keith, now you know who to go to for precision drawing, which is much more Arthur's style than mine :-) The duck wings are just beautiful.

I could do another head if you like if you need one, or whatever do you want to have next?
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right...been busy on the Opus page today. Shoving text and pictures into it.
Have a look HERE and see where your pics have finished up
oh and don't worry there is still a lot more to come...LOL
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I do hope lots of BF members view this thread.Anyone can point a camera at a bird and take a photo,but the artistic talent from these members is amazing.I guess many members as myself,just gaze in envy,but a big thankyou ,to the posters on this thread,it is great to see the work in progress.
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Looking good Keith, everything is nice and clear and readable, I love Dave's contributions, something I've not seen before, the combination of art and computer graphics is really nice too.

What are you considering next, let me know, but for line drawings,
I think Arthur would be my choice:-)
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Fantastic work by all - both the art and the descriptions. One of the most enjoyable and educational threads on BF! I think this is an excellent addition to Opus.
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Old Saturday 22nd August 2009, 21:58   #41
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To everyone who has contributed artwork, a great thank you, I hope I've been able to do your work some justice.
Here's the link for the page now. I've added a fair bit of stuff and some writing.
Have a look and see what I've done to your work...if you don't approve then let me know and I'll amend things according to your wishes.

Can I also request a gull head picture...I need to be able to show the gonys spot, gondyeal angle and sub terminal bars....that's the red spot on the bill of adults that the chicks peck at when begging for food, the angle of the lower mandible as it comes to the bill tip, and the vertical bars of colour on the beaks of some gulls.
Also if some one could do an open gull's wing picture so that I can label up things like mirrors, trailing edges etc it would be a godsend.
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Great work Keith, I've been trying to find and learn the info that is nicely and concisely presented there, you did a real service to all getting it together....I'd love to do the gull head, but I'll post a photo first to make sure it has what you want... I'd also like to do an great egret head....
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Hi Keith

here are some photos I've taken of gulls, will any of these work? if so which one would you like me to use, and please identify them for me....are they herring gulls or what?


if these don't work you could send me one that you do like.
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Fine work Keith - looks excellent.
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Thanks Colleen, for my purposes the third picture is the best one, a nice profile shot, it's got the spot and a nice angle, lacks a sub terminal bar but I can add that myself.

I aren't a gull expert but the birds do look like herring gulls to me.
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Hi Keith in the garden enjoying the sun while sketching the Herring Gulls wing.
Any use to you or did you want the bird attatched.
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That's top notch Arthur, I'll get on with the labelling later on today.
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Incredible talent shown on this thread,not to mention the info re tertials etc,very ,very impressive.
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Thanks for your good wishes Ed. I was getting pretty grouchy, but the past weekend my thirst has been well and truly slaked and all's right with the world! Pics uploaded to my blog!

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Update again.... Gull wing annotated and added HERE
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