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Cristian Mihai · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 10:11

Plese help me to solve the dilemma...

KFC · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 10:16

Levant sprawk - the last pic shows the throat streak really well. I'd say moulting adult female?

Ken

jamesevry · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 10:24

agreed

Parker · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 10:33

Same here, nice photo's you CAN actualy id this bird. P.

StuartReeves · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 17:23

I've never seen Levant Sparrowhawk but I've seen thousands of Sparrowhawks. Looking at the thumbnails I was struck by how pointed the wings of these birds appear when compared to Sparrowhawk.

njlarsen · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 17:37

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Originally Posted by StuartReeves

I've never seen Levant Sparrowhawk but I've seen thousands of Sparrowhawks. Looking at the thumbnails I was struck by how pointed the wings of these birds appear when compared to Sparrowhawk.

That was also remarked upon in a previous thread in this forum. One reason is that the number of free primaries (fingers) is supposed to be 4 while Eur Sparrowhawk has 5-6. In the previous thread it was remarked upon how similar the flight profile could be to common kestrel.

Niels

lou salomon · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 18:11

careful with moulting primaries at this time of year, niels, like seen in this adult female. but despite moult - even a moulting sparrowhawk with only 3 grown "fingers" has much blunter tipped wings when soaring. i actually have mistaken levant sparrowhawk for a falcon species when i didn't know it as well as i do now. nice shots, cristian.

njlarsen · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 19:50

Lou, I agree, and I also noticed that one primary in each side is growing on the bird we look at here.

Cheers
Niels

Nicky Petkov · Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 20:00

actually I'v always found the blakish tips of wings very telling first thing that was striking me in Levants...but true quite falcon looking as well

Cristian Mihai · Thursday 3rd September 2009, 16:57

Thank you everybody for ID and comments. My first idea was also Levant, but...

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lou salomon the birdonist Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 8,785	careful with moulting primaries at this time of year, niels, like seen in this adult female. but despite moult - even a moulting sparrowhawk with only 3 grown "fingers" has much blunter tipped wings when soaring. i actually have mistaken levant sparrowhawk for a falcon species when i didn't know it as well as i do now. nice shots, cristian. __________________ lou

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njlarsen Opus Editor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portsmouth, Dominica Posts: 12,877	Lou, I agree, and I also noticed that one primary in each side is growing on the bird we look at here. Cheers Niels __________________ Support bird conservation in the Caribbean: SCSCB
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Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 10:16	#2
KFC Ken Tucker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dorset Posts: 682 My location	Levant sprawk - the last pic shows the throat streak really well. I'd say moulting adult female? Ken

Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 10:24	#3
jamesevry Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 435 My location	agreed

Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 10:33	#4
Parker Uncomfortably Numb. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Leicester Posts: 2,987	Same here, nice photo's you CAN actualy id this bird. P.

Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 17:23	#5
StuartReeves Casual Eurocrat Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brussels, Belgium Posts: 3,677	I've never seen Levant Sparrowhawk but I've seen thousands of Sparrowhawks. Looking at the thumbnails I was struck by how pointed the wings of these birds appear when compared to Sparrowhawk.

Wednesday 2nd September 2009, 20:00	#9
Nicky Petkov Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 28	actually I'v always found the blakish tips of wings very telling first thing that was striking me in Levants...but true quite falcon looking as well

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