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Old Monday 12th October 2009, 21:55   #51
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Another vote for the status quo.

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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 00:10   #52
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After hearing both sides of the discussion, I shift my vote - status quo.
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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 00:28   #53
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servo incommutabilis insquequo nex, no change. I like it the way it is. Really it does make it a kind of unique thing, maybe no one person can answer every Id querry. It seems that collectivly we can. So we all make up one super birder who treats the entire world as one patch.
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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 01:37   #54
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So we would be building barriers between the regional populations of BirdForum -- almost the exact opposite of what I would want in BirdForum!
Hear, hear

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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 01:41   #55
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I appreciate this concern -- as a West Coast North American, I tend to miss other American viewers if I post too late in the day. But I suggest that timezone-challenged posters simply resort to a well-timed crossing-the-time-zones bump if they didn't get hoped-for input on their thread during the first pass.
Do remember the option of "thread tools, subscribe to this thread" so that you can easily get back to *your* thread. A bump has been necessary for a lot of us, and nothing wrong with that (unless you think the answers have to come within 30 minutes ).

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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 02:08   #56
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I think a better idea would be to include more posts on a page. I generally prefer as many items as possible on a page because I would much rather scroll than cause a postback for the next page and have to wait for it to load. I counted only 25 entries on a page so there is a lot of room for more. Make it 40 or 50 then almost all recent posts would be on the first page.

Sorry if someone else has already mentioned this as I confess to not having read the thread very closely .

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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 02:15   #57
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I think our Icelandic members might have problems if the split was made along the Atlantic ridge.

I'm in the status quo camp.
Touche' StuartReeves... No matter where you put a line on the globe... someone is going to be on the line.

I did like Iceland when I was there... I'd hate to see it split by a mere forum...

Volcanic activity does have a head start on that however...

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After reading the arguments, I am against. I don't think the benefits would outweigh the advantages.

Is it possible to force a rule - location in title ?

Someone said the change would be forced in the future - well there might be other ways such as filters or using the same search every visit if the location is in the title.

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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 08:54   #59
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After reading the arguments, I am against. I don't think the benefits would outweigh the advantages.

Is it possible to force a rule - location in title ?

Someone said the change would be forced in the future - well there might be other ways such as filters or using the same search every visit if the location is in the title.

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I know it's not true in every case, but a quick glance at the Poster's country of origin flag usually gives a pretty good idea of what geographical location the querie is likely to concern.
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I think a better idea would be to include more posts on a page. I generally prefer as many items as possible on a page because I would much rather scroll than cause a postback for the next page and have to wait for it to load. I counted only 25 entries on a page so there is a lot of room for more. Make it 40 or 50 then almost all recent posts would be on the first page.

Sorry if someone else has already mentioned this as I confess to not having read the thread very closely .
In Control Panel it is possible to set the number of posts per page to 40.

For those of you who have Firefox there's a little add-on called Auto Scroller; you just keep scrolling down - the next page is automatically loaded.

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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 13:02   #61
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I vote for the status quo also.
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I know it's not true in every case, but a quick glance at the Poster's country of origin flag usually gives a pretty good idea of what geographical location the querie is likely to concern.
I recognize the Union Jack and the flag of Ireland, but I have no clue regarding the majority of the flags I see here from UK users. I can't distinguish those from a flag from Africa or Asia. I imagine the same is true for most posters outside the UK.

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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 17:06   #62
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I vote for the status quo also.

I recognize the Union Jack and the flag of Ireland, but I have no clue regarding the majority of the flags I see here from UK users. I can't distinguish those from a flag from Africa or Asia. I imagine the same is true for most posters outside the UK.

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Surely you recognise the St. Andrews cross of Scotland, there's plenty of them present within this thread including mine
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In fact your post is surrounded by them!!
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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 17:32   #64
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Surely you recognise the St. Andrews cross of Scotland, there's plenty of them present within this thread including mine
Sorry, but not until your explanation. There's no explanation on the site, and we don't typically learn those things outside the UK. Would you recognize the state flags of Maryland, Indiana, New York, or Ohio?

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The ancient Kingdom of Scotland equivalent to an American state--now that's going to ruffle some feathers!
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The ancient Kingdom of Scotland equivalent to an American state--now that's going to ruffle some feathers!
Texas and California used to be separate countries, like Scotland. And the 13 original colonies were only very loosely joined until the constitution replaced the articles of confederation in 1787.

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Texas and California used to be separate countries, like Scotland.
I await Scottish reaction to the analogy with pleasurable anticipation.
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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 18:15   #68
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I await Scottish reaction to the analogy with pleasurable anticipation.
Well I can't control what get's you excited, but I suspect you are getting more worked up than the Scots. It's really a pretty simple analogy--and entirely accurate. People from other countries learn another countries' flag, they don't learn subnational flags. If the Scots, Welsh, etc. start fielding separate olympic teams or conducting their own foreign policy, then there would be a point to others from different countries learning those flags. Otherwise we won't and don't--a simple fact. And same goes for any subnational flag of any country.

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Well I can't control what get's you excited, but I suspect you are getting more worked up than the Scots.
Excited? Worked up? You’re not exactly one for the mot juste are you?
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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 18:31   #70
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Scotland is a country has its own national football team, it has own language its practically a race of people. Your ancestors Jeff were once ruled by scots.
Think it has bit more of historical and international significance than Maryland.

Also I suspect its a US thing. Think internationally more people would recognise the scottish flag than Marylands (no disrespect to the place).

It does maybe prove how insular americans can be.

Also there's quite a few scottish flags floating around BF
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Having said that, especially when Blair was Bushs poddle, to rest of world they think the UK and its nations as an extra state of USA. So no excuses however you look at Jeff
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Scotland is a country has its own national football team, it has own language its practically a race of people. Your ancestors Jeff were once ruled by scots.
Steve,

First, my name is Jim. Second, I agree with everything you say about Scotland being a more significant entity than Maryland. Third, I think you did not read my post closely and instead seem to be reacting to fugl's attempt to bait you, rather than anything I have said. I did not think you Scots could be so easily manipulated by Americans like fugl.

In any event, this is getting seriously off-topic thanks to the troublemaker fugl, so it will be my last post in this thread.

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Old Tuesday 13th October 2009, 20:03   #73
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It gets worse! I’m trusting you did see under my avatar I come from Bolton. Please tell me you do know that arguably the most historically important place in the world is in England not Scotland. Baffling.
Bolton:

Home of Bolton wanderers FC (one of the 12 founding members of the English football league)
Home of the worlds oldest pub aka The Old Man and Scythe
Home of Samuel Crompton, the inventor of the spinning mule.
Home of England greatest ever centre forward Nat Lofthouse
Is home of the world oldest football (soccer to you) pitch still in use.
Home of the worlds most famous steeple jack Fred Dibnah.
Its also where Peter Kay, Ian Mckellen and Rosie from Coronation Street originate from.


Ps sorry about getting name wrong Jim that’s the second time this week on BF I’ve got somebody’s name wrong.
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Id split

Would not make a difference to me.I check out every identification thread
posted just for the educational aspect!Plus it is very interesting what everybody has to say!Keep up the good work!
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posted just for the educational aspect!
So do I. Though because of my laziness I'm afraid that after the splitting I will only check North American and European threads ignoring those from other parts of the world.

On the other hand it's true that so many id threads are created every day and it's hard to look through them all and it indeed affects effectivness of solving id problems.
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