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Old Monday 2nd November 2009, 12:54   #1
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Talking Which Oriental Honey Buzzard ??, Singapore

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can some one tell us which subspecie does this bird belongs to ??
P.p.ruficollis, P.p.torquartus, or orientalis ??

Your assistance greatly appreciated...

Thanking you in advance ...
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Old Monday 2nd November 2009, 22:50   #2
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Well, I can't help with this, but hopefully someone will give it a try :) I'll be interested to hear the discussion
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Looks like this is a difficult one !!!!
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Hi,

can some one tell us which subspecie does this bird belongs to ??
P.p.ruficollis, P.p.torquartus, or orientalis ??

Your assistance greatly appreciated...

Thanking you in advance ...
I consulted two recently released field guides - "A Field Guide to the Birds of Borneo" by Susan Myers, and "The Phillipps field guide to the birds of borneo" [both quite cheap by SE Asia field guide standards].

The bird certainly has the pigeon-like appearance that Honey Buzzards are said to have. Honey Buzzards apparently mimic other species and have a number of different morphs.

I note that your bird lacks a crest and has a brown iris. Torquatus is supposed to have a crest and a yellow iris. Orientalis is supposed to have a shorter crest, and a brown iris in males, yellow iris in females.

Can't help regarding ruficollis.

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