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DalyanBirder · Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:28

Some photos I took at Elmley Marshes today I have tried to ID them where I can.

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I think this may possibly be a cirl bunting

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Not sure about this one heavy crop and it was a long way away. Possibly a buzzard but the wing tips aren't right. Hope someone can get it from the silhouette.

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I thought this may be a Knot

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From the beak colouration and legs I thought this may be a redshank but the plain grey colour isn't ringing true with my book.

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A curlew? I have another photo showing the downturned beak

DalyanBirder · Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:31

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Here is the other picture of what I think may be a curlew.

Thanks for all you help.

Adam W · Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:35

I'd say Reed Bunting not Cirl and Grey Plover instead of Knot think you got the others right.

Alan henry · Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:36

Reed Bunting
Buzzard
Grey Plover
Redshank
Curlew

Cheers
Alan
www.surfbirds.com/blog/falklandbirder

TringBirder · Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:38

Hi, pics as follows
1. Reed Bunting
2. not sure on this one?
3. Grey Plover - note pale notches that appear as spots on the upperparts and short thickish bill.
4. Redshank - they can be quite variable.
5. Curlew - Whimbrel has striped head pattern.

Tri-Counties Birder · Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:58

I think no. 2 is a Marsh Harrier. There are certainly plenty of those at Elmley.

lou salomon · Sunday 27th December 2009, 19:51

i agree on marsh harrier for no 2.

nickderry · Sunday 27th December 2009, 20:27

reed bunting, marsh harrier, grey plover, redshank, curlew.

DalyanBirder · Sunday 27th December 2009, 20:31

Thanks for the replies.

Out of interest what features on the 2nd Picture led to the Marsh Harrier, for my future reference.

bitterntwisted · Sunday 27th December 2009, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by DalyanBirder

Out of interest what features on the 2nd Picture led to the Marsh Harrier, for my future reference.

For me, shape (esp. long wings, without secondary bulge), and location.

Graham

Perry Grin · Monday 28th December 2009, 10:01

Hi folks,

Every time I look at this picture I see peregrine! I can't put my finger on why - bit of a cop out I know. Tail seems to be a bit short for marsh harrier and I keep getting drawn to what looks like a hint of white cheek - although form this image I'm sure that it could be an artifact. I know that the long wings are not right for peregrine.... and marsh harrier is most likely but......

Perry

tittletattler · Monday 28th December 2009, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Sean F

I think no. 2 is a Marsh Harrier. There are certainly plenty of those at Elmley.

Probably a male Marsh Harrier? Seems to show some grey in the wings.

Dalyanbirder, please check out this website:

http://www.kentos.org.uk/

Worth the £1 a month subscription!

Also, there's a few BTO Atlas 2km squares going free in West Kent; can you spare 8 hours (4 visits x 2 hours) next year to cover just one square?

Cheers,

Andy.

DalyanBirder · Monday 28th December 2009, 13:57

Hi Andy,

I have looked at that website. Trouble is I am moving to Dalyan in Turkey this February (2010) so won't be in the UK.

I am looking forward to the move as I have lots of nice bird areas near to my place there.

regards

John

Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:28	#1
DalyanBirder Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Okcular SW Turkey Posts: 207 My location	Confirmation ID's Elmley Marshes Some photos I took at Elmley Marshes today I have tried to ID them where I can. I think this may possibly be a cirl bunting Not sure about this one heavy crop and it was a long way away. Possibly a buzzard but the wing tips aren't right. Hope someone can get it from the silhouette. I thought this may be a Knot From the beak colouration and legs I thought this may be a redshank but the plain grey colour isn't ringing true with my book. A curlew? I have another photo showing the downturned beak __________________ "I have a photographic memory, but sometimes I leave the Lens Cap on"

Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:31	#2
DalyanBirder Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Okcular SW Turkey Posts: 207 My location	Here is the other picture of what I think may be a curlew. Thanks for all you help. __________________ "I have a photographic memory, but sometimes I leave the Lens Cap on"

Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:58	#6
Tri-Counties Birder The inland seawatcher Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, Dorset Posts: 2,973 My location	I think no. 2 is a Marsh Harrier. There are certainly plenty of those at Elmley. __________________ Sean Foote Last Lifers: World - Roller (388) UK - Roller (335), Moth - Little Thorn (458), Butterfly - Monarch (47), Plant - Wild Clary (452), Fungi - Purplepore Bracket (289)
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Sunday 27th December 2009, 19:51	#7
lou salomon the birdonist Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 8,912	i agree on marsh harrier for no 2. __________________ lou

Sunday 27th December 2009, 20:27	#8
nickderry C'est pas ma faute, je suis anglais. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Besançon, France Posts: 12,732 My location	reed bunting, marsh harrier, grey plover, redshank, curlew. __________________ NEW Website!!! Nick Derry Wildlife Artist on FACEBOOK

Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:35	#3
Adam W Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: sunderland Posts: 4,109	I'd say Reed Bunting not Cirl and Grey Plover instead of Knot think you got the others right.

Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:36	#4
Alan henry Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Falkland Islands Posts: 579	Reed Bunting Buzzard Grey Plover Redshank Curlew Cheers Alan www.surfbirds.com/blog/falklandbirder

Sunday 27th December 2009, 18:38	#5
TringBirder Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tring,Herts Posts: 850	Hi, pics as follows 1. Reed Bunting 2. not sure on this one? 3. Grey Plover - note pale notches that appear as spots on the upperparts and short thickish bill. 4. Redshank - they can be quite variable. 5. Curlew - Whimbrel has striped head pattern.

Sunday 27th December 2009, 20:31	#9
DalyanBirder Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Okcular SW Turkey Posts: 207 My location	Thanks for the replies. Out of interest what features on the 2nd Picture led to the Marsh Harrier, for my future reference. __________________ "I have a photographic memory, but sometimes I leave the Lens Cap on"

Monday 28th December 2009, 10:01	#11
Perry Grin Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London Posts: 738	Hi folks, Every time I look at this picture I see peregrine! I can't put my finger on why - bit of a cop out I know. Tail seems to be a bit short for marsh harrier and I keep getting drawn to what looks like a hint of white cheek - although form this image I'm sure that it could be an artifact. I know that the long wings are not right for peregrine.... and marsh harrier is most likely but...... Perry

Monday 28th December 2009, 13:57	#13
DalyanBirder Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Okcular SW Turkey Posts: 207 My location	Hi Andy, I have looked at that website. Trouble is I am moving to Dalyan in Turkey this February (2010) so won't be in the UK. I am looking forward to the move as I have lots of nice bird areas near to my place there. regards John __________________ "I have a photographic memory, but sometimes I leave the Lens Cap on"

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