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Tiny or Semicollared Hawk? (1 Viewer)

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LGphotography

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Well, this is the only one of the birds I've photographed in Mindo which could not be identifyed for sure.

Birdingcraft ID it as a Tiny or Semicollared Hawk with the first pictures I have posted.
I have tryied to find out more, but it is very difficult to find pictures of Semicollared Hawk on the Internet, so I cannot go further...

It has been photographed in Mindo, Ecuador.

Here is a video: http://www.lgphotography.fr/mindo/HawkMindo.avi

And all the picts I've taken:
http://pic.atpic.com/1772291
http://pic.atpic.com/1772302
http://pic.atpic.com/1772293
http://pic.atpic.com/1772296
http://pic.atpic.com/1772297
http://pic.atpic.com/1772299
http://pic.atpic.com/1772303
http://pic.atpic.com/1772305
http://pic.atpic.com/1772306

Can anyone help?
 
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Hi LG,

If these were taken anywhere near Sao Paulo then they can't be Semi-collared, which only occurs on the west of the Andes.

H
 
Interesting pictures. Wish I could help out. Maybe someone with more knowledge of SA raptors will jump in here?

They are really excellent photos! It looks like an exotic and colorful accipiter. You should post the best ones on Opus here because, as you note there doesn't seem to be many (if any) pictures of a Semi-collared hawk on the internet.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-collared_Hawk

Now, after reading that, what is a procarocoid foramen? And does your bird have one?

Cordially,
Bob
 
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According to the books I have access to, Tiny Hawk has reddish eyes (but the Opus image shows yellow in juvenile), while Semicollared has yellow. The color of the eyes here would therefore indicate Tiny Hawk. The very fine barring on the underside also indicates that way. As I am not an expert, I am not sure if there is another species we should be looking at.

I completely agree that these are nice images, please upload one to the gallery here.

By the way, the procarocoid foramen seems to be something you can look for in a skeleton.

Niels
 
I had to go back to my books for this one,

but the bird doesn't strike me as having a clear half collar, and the fine barring makes me sit in the tiny hawk camp as well.

KR,

filip
 
I did have photos of Semicollared Hawk posted on the surfbirds gallery some time ago, but I can't find them. I think it might have been when the site crashed and then came back online with some pictures having vanished from the galleries.
To me, this bird looks too 'delicate' and elongated for SCH. Admittedly, I have restricted experience with both species, but to my eye SCH looks very compact, chunky and squat. TH looks petite. The ventral barring is also quite fine as others have said, pointing towards TH.
Having said that, SCH should be the species at that altitude, but there are historical records of TH also.
Gorgeous pictures by the way - maybe it's a good thing I can't find mine!
My first Tiny Hawk swooped in unexpectedly to take a Marcapata Spinetail just as the thing finally popped its head up after a lengthy hide-and-seek duel on the Manu Road. The hawk then plucked the unfortunate (and still thrashing) Spinetail on a low branch above my head much to my other half's distress.
 
Antshrike, it would be great if you found that photo of SCH somewhere and uploaded it here, we have zero images of that in the BF gallery!

Niels
 
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