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Old Wednesday 22nd December 2010, 13:37   #1
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Belgian ring ouzel ??

pics taken in Belgium yesterday. Somebody can say me if it's a Ring Ouzel or a common blackbird a bit special ?? thanks for your help
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Old Wednesday 22nd December 2010, 13:41   #2
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Structure says Blackbird with unusual markings. Tough break!

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Old Wednesday 22nd December 2010, 13:52   #3
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I'd go with blackbird too, 1st winter as it has some retained GCs. There doesn't seem to be enough pale fringing on the wing feathers, and the torque isn't well defined enough. Also the primary projection doesn't appear long enough (though it's difficult to see in the pics). It's a doozy and without photos it could have been the one that got away. They're tricksy little buggers blackbirds and I'm sure we've all been worried by some of the more odd plumaged individuals.

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One with white upper rear corners to its ear coverts, a couple of years ago near where I live, when seen from behind nearly gave me a Sibe Thrush heart attack!

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Old Thursday 23rd December 2010, 10:29   #5
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In autumn, and to some degree in winter, here on the east coast, we regularly get blackbird with noticable white fringes to the body feathers. I have been reliably informed that this is indicative of birds from the east, although this is not mentioned in Duivendijk's Advanced Bird ID Guide.

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Old Thursday 23rd December 2010, 10:56   #6
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Surely, there has got to be an element of Ring Ouzel in it! The bill as well as the markings....
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Old Thursday 23rd December 2010, 11:03   #7
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Surely, there has got to be an element of Ring Ouzel in it! The bill as well as the markings....
Partial albinism could be effecting the bill colouration. In both 1st winter Ousel and Blackbird you'd expect the bill to be dark.

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Does anyone think there is a possiblity of it being a hybrid?

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Old Friday 24th December 2010, 21:07   #9
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Does anyone think there is a possiblity of it being a hybrid?

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I did a little googling in pursuit of that earlier. It's a very odd that the crescent marking is in just the right place if the bird is just an albino blackbird, while structurally it isn't a ring ouzel, which makes the suggestion of a hybrid worthy of investigation, IMHO.

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See:

http://www.birdsofbritain.co.uk/features/mao-jun-01.asp

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Also the eye-ring is well presented.
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Seems to lack the white edging to the wings, and the mottling on the nape of 1st winter Ring Ouzel.

Very convincing lookalike though. :)

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