[GrahameNZ]

Hi folks,
Looks like it's time for an update to my HS10.
My question is when the camera has done a full "burst" of shots, how long does it take to store them to the card and be ready to shoot again.
Yep I know is dependant to a degree on the card class etc., I'm useing a 16gig class 10 so that wont slow things down.
Appx figures for just jpegs and if you know jpegs plus raw would be great to know.
Many thanks
Grahame

[firstreesjohn]

Originally Posted by GrahameNZ

when the camera has done a full "burst" of shots, how long does it take to store them to the card and be ready to shoot again

With me, it's immediate.

[GrahameNZ]

Thanks for that info firstreesjohn and brings a smile to my face.
With the HS10 if I shoot of a burst of 7 picks it takes 25 or more seconds to store them to the card.
Currently I shoot at 7fps a lot, but if the birds are coming past you basically get one quick burst and enjoy the rest of them flying past.
So I guess this brings me to question 2......does the 5.5fps burst and refocus really work ????
If so this will be one happy estuary wader.
:)

[firstreesjohn]

Having never had a DSLR, I cannot compare with one of these.

However, I have noticed that some of these (burst) shots are in focus and others aren't.

The ones in focus can be very good and some are, in fact, on here.

[Swissboy]

A rather little thing on the side that I find annoying all the same. The lid for the card and battery compartment has an awkward opening mechanism. On my previous FZ models (FZ7, FZ8, FZ28, FZ35/38) There has always been the same practical cover that was easy to open in a hurry when the card was suddenly full or the battery empty. Now, one kind of needs both hands where one was sufficient before. Am I the only one to gripe about this?

[scodgerott]

Originally Posted by GrahameNZ

Hi folks,
Looks like it's time for an update to my HS10.
My question is when the camera has done a full "burst" of shots, how long does it take to store them to the card and be ready to shoot again.
Yep I know is dependant to a degree on the card class etc., I'm useing a 16gig class 10 so that wont slow things down.
Appx figures for just jpegs and if you know jpegs plus raw would be great to know.
Many thanks
Grahame

I have also found that you can start shooting again almost instantaneously after a full 12 shot burst. The number of shots reduces to about 8 and if you shoot again quickly the number of shots reduces to about 5. The same principle applies to the 40 fps mode, shoot off 50 shots and you can still fire off another burst of about 15 or 20 almost without pause. If you keep doing that the camera will grind to a halt while it processes everything and will take about 20 seconds to clear. I have only had it happen about twice and each time it happened I was also using video as well as firing off stills. Most of the time the post processing by the camera isn't an issue, but I can see that if there are a lot of birds around you could get caught out, however its much faster than the Fuji.

[scodgerott]

Originally Posted by Swissboy

A rather little thing on the side that I find annoying all the same. The lid for the card and battery compartment has an awkward opening mechanism. On my previous FZ models (FZ7, FZ8, FZ28, FZ35/38) There has always been the same practical cover that was easy to open in a hurry when the card was suddenly full or the battery empty. Now, one kind of needs both hands where one was sufficient before. Am I the only one to gripe about this?

I have the FZ18 which has the slide and click arrangement, but when I got both the Fz100 and FZ150, I just saw it as another way of doing the same thing, neither better nor worse. I can still open the battery door with one hand, so to me its not an issue.

[seanofford]

I've just got a FZ150 today as my second camera (G3 is the main one for birds) and I'm AMAZED that, unlike on my G3, the 5 frames per second burst with continuous autofocus does NOT make the EVF go black at all! This is fantastic and I can't wait to try it with some larger flying birds.

On the negative side I cannot BELIEVE that there is no way to save the smallest single focus area as the default, even using the custom settings.

Sean

[GrahameNZ]

Originally Posted by scodgerott

I have also found that you can start shooting again almost instantaneously after a full 12 shot burst.
Etc
however its much faster than the Fuji.

Thanks for that, sounds like it is not only much faster but in a whole different universe...
The only downside I can see with this camera for me is the 600mm equiv. lens
The Canon SX40 has 840mm eqiv. but doesnt have the speed of focus that the Pany has.
Most of it's other shortfallings will be fixed by useing CHDK.
And the "inbuilt" teleconverter (yep I know not a real one) but the full megapixel image and at 1232mm image from Neil here
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=213076&page=2
has me wanting to change to the dark side.
For me the ideal is lightning fast focus and digi scoping focal length with the ability to quickly come back to shorter focal length for bif.....
Yep currently dreaming but give it another couple of years..............
Ah well onwards..................
Happy Birding folks

[GrahameNZ]

Originally Posted by seanofford

I'm AMAZED that, unlike on my G3, the 5 frames per second burst with continuous autofocus does NOT make the EVF go black at all! This is fantastic and I can't wait to try it with some larger flying birds.
Sean

Interested to hear about how well it performs.
Please keep us updated.

[scodgerott]

Originally Posted by seanofford

I've just got a FZ150 today as my second camera (G3 is the main one for birds) and I'm AMAZED that, unlike on my G3, the 5 frames per second burst with continuous autofocus does NOT make the EVF go black at all! This is fantastic and I can't wait to try it with some larger flying birds.

On the negative side I cannot BELIEVE that there is no way to save the smallest single focus area as the default, even using the custom settings.

Sean

I agree its annoying that the focus area setting won't save, but always reverts to the default setting after its turned on again. Jut a tip that I have found that will help with birds in flight. Set the focus area to the next largest setti g or the largest setting. It helps the camera to find focus on the bird rather than the sky.

[seanofford]

Originally Posted by GrahameNZ

Interested to hear about how well it performs.
Please keep us updated.

Took some shots today of gulls, wood pigeons, sparrowhawk etc. Very easy to follow in flight though the quality is not as good as my µ43 camera. Nevertheless a great lightweight camera to always have with you...

Sean

[scodgerott]

At last I can post some shots I took with my FZ150 on a trip to the USA. Just a couple of hummingbirds taken at fairly close range. I am very pleased with the detail and sharpness of the images, I hope that comes across after I downsize them for the upload.

[J.D]

Look good to me Rodger, Has anyone found a small bag/holster for the FZ150 with hood , that they can recommend. i have some larger shoulder bags from my 35mm days but these are all too big for this camera.

[Swissboy]

Originally Posted by scodgerott

........I am very pleased with the detail and sharpness of the images, I hope that comes across after I downsize them for the upload.

Great stuff! Congratulations.

[JohnJos]

Originally Posted by J.D

Look good to me Rodger, Has anyone found a small bag/holster for the FZ150 with hood , that they can recommend. i have some larger shoulder bags from my 35mm days but these are all too big for this camera.

Hi. I use a LowePro TLZ Mini (TLZ = top loader zoom). The FZ150 fits in perfectly with hood attached. However, I don't know if that model is made any more. The closest model appears to be the TLZ 45 AW, but it is an inch bigger in all dimensions. But it appears there are a few LowePro models that would work with the FZ150, like the Adventura TLZ 15. http://products.lowepro.com/product/...-15,2210,8.htm

[firstreesjohn]

I was very sad to say ‘good-bye’ to my Camera Care Systems case- quick access, when attached to my belt, superbly padded and waterproof. It was just slightly too small.

I now needed another similar, as CCS no longer exists.

Some of these products might provide an answer: http://www.clikelite.com/products/#Accessories

I plumped for http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-...black/p1525519, which allows the camera to sit ‘upright’ in the bag with zoom fully extended, for quick action. I do not use the hood, but have a protective filter on the lens. When the camera is ‘off’, it sits in the bag on its side, ready to be brought out by the grip.

[johnno]

Originally Posted by firstreesjohn

Having never had a DSLR, I cannot compare with one of these.

However, I have noticed that some of these (burst) shots are in focus and others aren't.

The ones in focus can be very good and some are, in fact, on here.

I find exactly the same thing,the first shot is great,and focus after that becomes poor.

Going to try just the straight burst tomorrow,IE, focus on first shot.

Also if using auto IE,first shot slightly Darker.

John

[scodgerott]

I get that as well. It happened on my FZ18, FZ100 and FZ150. I have always assumed it was me, as I tend to jerk the camera slightly when I start following a bit of action. I came to this conclusion, because if one of the shots is going to be slightly blurred, its usually the first shot. Its possible that there is also camera movement happening during the burst, which may cause other shots to be blurred. I also have a friend who has a Pentax DSLR and he said it happens to his shots as well.

[njlarsen]

Originally Posted by johnno

I find exactly the same thing,the first shot is great,and focus after that becomes poor.

snip

John

My experience is with a FZ18 which did not try to change focus between shots in burst. With this, the usual pattern was that shot 2 or 3 was better than one, presumably because any shakes due to me pressing the shutter had dissipated.

On the GH2 that does not seem to be the case, presumably because the mechanical shutter induces a similar amount of shakes to the amount that dissipates. (On the other hand, the GH2 when focused well and with a fast enough shutter is sharper than the FZ18 ever was).

Niels

[scodgerott]

Originally Posted by njlarsen

My experience is with a FZ18 which did not try to change focus between shots in burst. With this, the usual pattern was that shot 2 or 3 was better than one, presumably because any shakes due to me pressing the shutter had dissipated.

On the GH2 that does not seem to be the case, presumably because the mechanical shutter induces a similar amount of shakes to the amount that dissipates. (On the other hand, the GH2 when focused well and with a fast enough shutter is sharper than the FZ18 ever was).

Niels

Yes I agree, that's my experience as well. I'm sure its operator error. I haven't noticed the change in exposure on this camera, but I did get it on the FZ18, where often the first shot was overexposed, but not always. Could never quite work out what was happening in that respect.

How are you enjoying the GH2 Niels? I was tempted to try the G3, but when the FZ150 came out and got such good reviews I decided to stick with the superzooms. I quite pleased with the camera and will be happy to use it for some time.

[scodgerott]

Here are some more images taken with the FZ150. By the way I did notice when looking through my shots, that on one occasion the first picture in the burst was slightly underexposed when compared to the others in the burst. Once again, can't explain why that would happen.

By the way, anybody know what species of hummingbirds these two are? I suspect that they are Anna's, but I am having a lot of trouble identifying them, so any help would be appreciated.

[njlarsen]

Originally Posted by scodgerott

How are you enjoying the GH2 Niels? I was tempted to try the G3, but when the FZ150 came out and got such good reviews I decided to stick with the superzooms. I quite pleased with the camera and will be happy to use it for some time.

A little off topic in this thread, but I have had many good photos with the GH2, and have uploaded several to my area in BF gallery. I will copy a couple of them here just to show off

Niels

[scodgerott]

Originally Posted by njlarsen

A little off topic in this thread, but I have had many good photos with the GH2, and have uploaded several to my area in BF gallery. I will copy a couple of them here just to show off

Niels

Very nice shots Niels, that camera is a good one.

[Hobbes2]

Originally Posted by scodgerott

Here are some more images taken with the FZ150. By the way I did notice when looking through my shots, that on one occasion the first picture in the burst was slightly underexposed when compared to the others in the burst. Once again, can't explain why that would happen.

By the way, anybody know what species of hummingbirds these two are? I suspect that they are Anna's, but I am having a lot of trouble identifying them, so any help would be appreciated.

Great shots, Roger. The quality is very good indeed (no obvious artifacts etc).
Hobbes