[Frozzbird]

G'day,I need definititive gender dentification of these 2 birds.
They are 1 male and female bird with 2 photos of each.
The main differences are that the bird in PIC_0877 & PIC_0879 clearly has lighter grey colour surrounding the eye and has a very distinctively lighter beak colour.

I never see much difference in their overall feather colour. Except that the bird in the first 2 photos sometimes seems to have a more shinier greyness on its breast. It can even look slightly irridescent or shimmering if I look at it from only a few centremetres. But I wonder if the other bird would look the same if it would let me get that close up as I can easily do with its mate.

One thing I have noticed about the bird in the first 2 photos is that it sometimes does a very quiet little call, that is more a murmurring sound compared to a normal Grey Shrike-Thrush song. It also has a habit of looking like it is shivering or vibrating its wings.
I don't know if both sexes do this, because I haven't seen the other bird do it.

I feel very lucky to have these wild birds as visitors but I do need to get proper ID of their gender.
I'm hoping some one can help me out with clear identification and also give me a website to look at where I can get some expert info about Grey Shrike-Thrushes.

[Chosun Juan]

Hey Frozz,

The first two pics (0877 & 0879) are of a female - pale eye ring and faint streaking on throat.

The second two (0841 & 0843) are of a male - faint whitish patch between eye and beak just distinguishable.

I would think the wing flicking and soft mumurring sounds would be part of breeding behaviour at this time of year, as they would be all loved up and getting ready to nest. (The pardalotes round here are doing a similar sort of soft wing shuffle).

Cheers,
Chosun

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