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Old Wednesday 25th August 2004, 17:51   #1
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Yukon 6-100x100

I couldn't find any expirienced review of this telescope.

Any one has any idea if it's any good ?

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Old Wednesday 25th August 2004, 20:04   #2
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I didn't think such a thing could be for real. I googled it and there it was, at binoculars .com for $300. A wonderfully bizarre contraption; a small scope piggy backed on a large one with a (moveable mirror?) to change the light path from one objective to the other. Given the low price, high complexity, large objective(s) size and wide zoom range I would be very skeptical of this thing. It promises way too much for too little, but it would be great fun to try it.
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Old Thursday 26th August 2004, 05:36   #3
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I have the seem feeling, but yet....

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I didn't think such a thing could be for real. I googled it and there it was, at binoculars .com for $300. A wonderfully bizarre contraption; a small scope piggy backed on a large one with a (moveable mirror?) to change the light path from one objective to the other. Given the low price, high complexity, large objective(s) size and wide zoom range I would be very skeptical of this thing. It promises way too much for too little, but it would be great fun to try it.
Not everyone can effort a the top end telescopes and with that in mind, I'm trying to find the best alternative I can find in my limited budget.
in my searches I have found this wierd creature, that I'll be so happy to hear a first hand expirience of it (on not just the automatic NO WAY that we all have) and the Eagle Optics Raven that seems be a good bargain.

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Old Friday 27th August 2004, 19:46   #4
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Not everyone can effort a the top end telescopes and with that in mind, I'm trying to find the best alternative I can find in my limited budget.
in my searches I have found this wierd creature, that I'll be so happy to hear a first hand expirience of it (on not just the automatic NO WAY that we all have) and the Eagle Optics Raven that seems be a good bargain.

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I didn't mean to denigrate your search for a good $300 scope. Like you I was amazed by the design of this "wierd creature". Too many bells and whistles for $300 is a bad sign, though.
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Old Friday 27th August 2004, 21:24   #5
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Eagle Optics and Opticron scopes are better buys, I reckon. A scope should be easily portable, and give an easy to view image that is wide and bright.
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Interesting looking beast.

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Old Sunday 29th August 2004, 15:57   #7
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If find it very wierd that no one even tried this scope, even just out of curisty.

Well, I'll just wait untill I have a chance to test it myself.

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Old Sunday 29th August 2004, 20:52   #8
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I don't think they are easily available. I've never seen one.
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Wouldn't it be a hoot if someone tried it and found it was brilliant and did all it claimed. Reminds me of the story of NASA spending silly millions of dollars developing a pen that could write in zero gravity and in a vacuum while the Russians just used a pencil !!!!

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Old Monday 30th August 2004, 09:12   #10
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Wouldn't it be a hoot if someone tried it and found it was brilliant and did all it claimed. Reminds me of the story of NASA spending silly millions of dollars developing a pen that could write in zero gravity and in a vacuum while the Russians just used a pencil !!!!

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I don't know, each time I pick up a pencil, it needs sharpening... But can't someone invent a ball pen that doesn't blob?
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I've sent requests..

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I don't know, each time I pick up a pencil, it needs sharpening... But can't someone invent a ball pen that doesn't blob?
I started sending requests to different winners in eBay of this scope, once I get a detailed response (and someone that can compare it to another scope) I will share the info.

I never heard that story about the pen, really good one. In my language there is some saying : "Using a cannon to kill a fly". Sounds bad in English, but I'm sure there is some english equivalent.
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A response I received from an ebay user who bought the scope :

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Yes I have used the scope and am thoroughly pleased with it. I have nikon and swarvoski spotting scopes and while those cost in excess of $1000 this scope is just as clear. In fact I purchased 2 more to give to my professional hunter guides when I go on African Safaris. For the price I do not think there is a better scope. The tripod is also an excellent addition that you would want to consider. Hope this helps you

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It's beginning to look interesting, lets hope you get more replies like that one.

An English equivalent to your phrase would be " Using a sledge hammer to crack a nut"

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Old Sunday 5th September 2004, 09:36   #14
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Another e-bay response just arived :
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Mate, personally I believe they are worth this money, they are are bit synthetic and industrial but they will do about just as good ajob as a $4000.00 ZIESS spotting scope. Recently I used this scope on moon and star gazing, excellentas good a compact scope you will get anywhere for less than half the price. Value for money the one I have used is great! many regards LOUIS
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I still wish I'll get to a see a hands-on professional review.
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Old Sunday 5th September 2004, 14:12   #15
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I still wish I'll get to a see a hands-on professional review.
Well - anything other than that. Zeiss don't even make a $4000-00 scope...
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Old Monday 20th September 2004, 22:22   #16
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I was doing a bit of idle window shopping today and happened to look in the window of a camera shop and blow me there it was a Yukon 6-100X100 at £299 and it looks just as weird in the flesh so to speak as it does on the web site, I was very tempted to get it but my credit card started to cry so I didn't, very tempted though, very tempted.

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I was doing a bit of idle window shopping today and happened to look in the window of a camera shop and blow me there it was a Yukon 6-100X100 at £299 and it looks just as weird in the flesh so to speak as it does on the web site, I was very tempted to get it but my credit card started to cry so I didn't, very tempted though, very tempted.

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Mick you should have gone in and had a look through it any-way,and put all of us out of our misery.
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Just what I was thinking, Mick... even a look down the road. Is it wide, sharp, bright, etc...?

Or would the temptation have been too much?

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Just what I was thinking, Mick... even a look down the road. Is it wide, sharp, bright, etc...?

Or would the temptation have been too much?

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Yep I was bothered by the temptation, £299 is not a lot for a scope but it's a lot to waste on an impulse, another problem is that I only have a cheap Acuter scope (that was an impulse buy, seemed great at first) so anything I reported wouldn't realy be that useful, still fascinated by it though, I know I shall wind up by at least having a look through it.

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Old Thursday 23rd September 2004, 12:59   #20
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That was close !!

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Yep I was bothered by the temptation, £299 is not a lot for a scope but it's a lot to waste on an impulse, another problem is that I only have a cheap Acuter scope (that was an impulse buy, seemed great at first) so anything I reported wouldn't realy be that useful, still fascinated by it though, I know I shall wind up by at least having a look through it.

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Gee.. That was a close for a first-hand review !!
Anyway, I waited few months already, I can live with a few more..
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A response I received from an ebay user who bought the scope :

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Yes I have used the scope and am thoroughly pleased with it. I have nikon and swarvoski spotting scopes and while those cost in excess of $1000 this scope is just as clear. In fact I purchased 2 more to give to my professional hunter guides when I go on African Safaris. For the price I do not think there is a better scope. The tripod is also an excellent addition that you would want to consider. Hope this helps you

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I wonder what "just as clear" really means. I also suspect that most people who buy a $300 scope would like to believe that it actually performs as well as a $1000 scope. I like to think that my Chrysler Sebring convertible looks as nice and drives as nicely as a Jaguar XK8. Its a nice fantasy - but it is a fantasy.

Reality check time.

The AFOV at 100x and 25x is around 60 degrees. But the exit pupil is only 1mm at these magnifications and I'd assume the will be frequently used at magnifications somewhere in the middle to low range (30-45x). So I'd guess the AFOV for typical viewing will be less than 60 degrees. You apparently cannont opt for a fixed wide angle eyepiece either.

On the basis of aperture vs. magnification alone, this scope is bound to produce a marginal image at 100x. Many people report that they consider 60x to be a bit of a strech for the top 80mm scopes with the better glass. This scope is pushing the aperture to magnifiaction ratio even further. At 100x, the scope has a 1mm exit pupil

One sight shows a close focus of 150m at 100x. This isn't so good. Poor enough that it may even be a typo.
http://www.nightvisionplanet.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=300

None of the advertisements say anything about special objective designs or exotic glass being used. They talk about multicoated optics. So it seems a fair bet that that both objectives are basic achromats.

http://www.yukonoptics.com/eng/index.htm

Eye relief of 12/14mm is not what I would call "generous" though some vendors do.

OK. I like a bargain as much as anyone. Perhaps even more than most. But there is no good reason to believe that this scope is going to perform similarly to a top end 80mm. But these Yukons apparently made in Russia and Russia has a fine tradition of optical knowhow. So perhaps this may very well be a pretty decent bargain scope that can provide very good or even excellent brightness at middle magnifications. The reviews of less ambitious scopes that I found on the Yukon Optics site suggest just this type of product class.

This looks like a good candidate to always have in the trunk "just in case" or to take into situations where damaging a scope seems significantly more likely. As long as you go in with your eyes wide open to what this scope performance is likely to be, it seems like it could be a reasonable choice. But keep your expectations low. Then you might be pleasently surprised rather than disappointed.
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I defiantly agree...

I defiantly agree that this scope is in no way can be compared to any of the top-end and even middle-value (Pentax, Kowa, Nikon, etc..) scopes.

When I first asked about this scope it was when I realized I will not have the budget to buy any of the above listed scopes (and with that, obviously Leica, Zeiss and Swarovski are out of the question).

What I then had in my mind was the Eagle-optics Raven, but before actually buying it, I wanted to hear a hands-on review of this Yukon scope and decide between the two.

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These Yukon scopes DO perform very well!!!

Hi there,

I've been following the discussion on the quality of the Yukon 100x scope. Pity ther seems to be no professional review around anywhere...

Still, these guys do make great scopes. I own a Yukon 20-50X50http://www.yukonoptics.com/eng/catal...ir20-50x50.htm and it's a great scope! Mine bears the label Sibir by the way...
I do have a wide experience with scopes and own an AT80. Of course, a scope such as the Yukon 20-50X50 does have the same "feel" as the AT80 but the image quality is very good. On the downside you have for example the fact that when zooming for 20 to 50 the image needs to be refocussed. A drag... but hey, what can you expect at a price of 45 euros (56 dollars).

Anyway, to cut a long story short: I've decided I'd buy a Yukon 6-100X100 and when I have tested it and compared it to my AT80 long enough, I will let you all know!

Still won't be a professional review though, but one opinion more! ;-)

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I've been following the discussion on the quality of the Yukon 100x scope. Pity there seems to be no professional review around anywhere...


Still won't be a professional review though, but one opinion more! ;-)

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Anyway, to cut a long story short: I've decided I'd buy a Yukon 6-100X100 and when I have tested it and compared it to my AT80 long enough, I will let you all know!

Still won't be a professional review though, but one opinion more! ;-)

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I for one will be very interested to read your opinions, I very nearly bought one myself but decided some better bins would be more useful, next year though maybe.

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