[ammadoux]

Hello all

i came across this link

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02...E-M5_announced

and just wanted to know if anyone knows what are the lenses offered in this picture, are they the current m4/3 ones or are they new ones.

as IMHO the main problem with the Olympus cameras is the shortage in long reach lenses. it seems they cannot be convinced that 300mm on 4/3 frame is not enough for wild life photography.

wonder if they will be a zoom that reaches to 400mm, or a 400mm, and 500 mm prime, that are offered in reasonable prices.

[Cristian Mihai]

The are two new lenses Dulce:
75mm f1.8 and 60mm f2.8

See: http://www.olympus-global.com/en/new...208zuikoe.html

[Jaff]

I imagine they are deliberately focusing their efforts away from the long lens market because let's face it that really is the domain of Canon and Nikon with their share of the photography market in general being so huge only they have the money which having all that brings to funnel into R&D and production of hugely expensive telephotos. Only Sigma can really lay claim to successfully competing with them in this regard.

[roger48]

And now Sony, who have are introducing their 500mm f4 super telephoto lens from April in A mount. Very expensive, but probably no more so than the Canikon equivalent.

Nice with me A77, better start saving, or selling body parts and children.

[NoSpringChicken]

Originally Posted by roger48

And now Sony, who have are introducing their 500mm f4 super telephoto lens from April in A mount. Very expensive, but probably no more so than the Canikon equivalent.

Nice with me A77, better start saving, or selling body parts and children.

Out of interest, I did a search to see how much it is likely to cost and came up with $16,200 US plus tax. That converts to £10,230 plus tax! How many children do you have to sell or which body parts can you do without?

Ron

[ammadoux]

thanks everyone about your reply, i just found this video about the accessories, not much information about the new lenses though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrMgT...eature=related

[carlj]

Originally Posted by NoSpringChicken

Out of interest, I did a search to see how much it is likely to cost and came up with $16,200 US plus tax. That converts to £10,230 plus tax! How many children do you have to sell or which body parts can you do without?

Ron

I'd sell as many children as required. Mind, I've none of my own so would have to round them up off the street first....

[njlarsen]

Originally Posted by ammadoux

thanks everyone about your reply, i just found this video about the accessories, not much information about the new lenses though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrMgT...eature=related

A little about the new lenses: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02...5mm_60mm_Macro

Niels

[Jaff]

Originally Posted by carlj

I'd sell as many children as required. Mind, I've none of my own so would have to round them up off the street first....

A Fagin for the digital age eh.

[carlj]

Originally Posted by Jaff

A Fagin for the digital age eh.

Yup!

Not sure about this release mind. The E series dslrs weren't a great success, against the flocks of canikon releases. They hit a vein with the Pen, so decide to reinvent the much loved OM series, but not the mount. What next? Olympus M4/3 Plate camera?

[Adey Baker]

Originally Posted by ammadoux

...and just wanted to know if anyone knows what are the lenses offered in this picture, are they the current m4/3 ones or are they new ones...

That seems to be the full range of lenses as they stand at the moment including the new ones introduced with the new cameras (but which are not yet available) - the new 60mm macro, for instance is just in front of the smallest flashgun.

Some of the lenses are available in both black and silver colour so the line-up looks greater than it is in reality.

Anything much longer than 300mm with a reasonable maximum aperture will go against the compact 'ethos' of the m4/3rds system somewhat, though it's not impossible if there is enough demand.

[NoSpringChicken]

The owner of the Four Thirds User site has just posted that, according to his very reliable sources, the E-M5 sensor is NOT made by Panasonic. He doesn't know who it is made by though. That is a real surprise and contradicts nearly everything I have read about the sensor so far. The site liaises very closely with Olympus, so I am inclined to believe this revelation.

Ron

[njlarsen]

I don't think a sensor by Pana is necessarily bad nor that another one is necessarily good -- it will be interesting to see what the high ISO iq is when some production version cameras appear. (High iso because the birding lenses so far are not fast).

Niels

[michaelboustead]

I use Olympus Pen as my primary camera, mostly for travel and with a viewfinder attached.
The OM-D really interests me. Tokina is making a 300mm mirror lenses which will be quite small-manual focus. Maybe $200. I am not a bird photographer, but thinking about it to be able to document a tick. Any thoughts?

Mike

[Adey Baker]

Originally Posted by michaelboustead

Tokina is making a 300mm mirror lenses which will be quite small-manual focus. Maybe $200. I am not a bird photographer, but thinking about it to be able to document a tick. Any thoughts?

Mike

The zooms by Olympus and Panasonic would be better (75-300mm and 100-300mm) though more than $200 each. They would be somewhat bigger but neither is exactly huge and a lens can be too small for comfortable use. The Panasonic one also has F5.6 as its maximum aperture at the 300mm end of the zoom and a close enough minimum focus distance for larger insect subjects such as butterflies and dragonflies, etc.

[NoSpringChicken]

The full review for the O-MD EM-5 has just been posted on the dpreview site. I haven't read it properly yet but in the Conclusion section they give it 80% and a Gold Award - the first for a M4/3 camera. Time for a proper read now, I think.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympusem5/

Ron

[njlarsen]

so 1 % above the GH2 if I remember correctly

Niels

[NoSpringChicken]

Originally Posted by njlarsen

so 1 % above the GH2 if I remember correctly

Niels

That's true. If they had improved the video specs a bit they could have got a better score but it's still an unusually favourable review of an Olympus camera from DPR. Just a shame I can't afford one to play with.

Ron

[speckled wood]

Kodak did make 4/3rd sensors at one stage, could they have acquired some design off kodak?

[NoSpringChicken]

Originally Posted by speckled wood

Kodak did make 4/3rd sensors at one stage, could they have acquired some design off kodak?

I think Kodak sold off their sensor division late last year, when they were having financial difficulties. Many people still think that the E-M5 uses a modified Panasonic sensor but nobody knows for certain at the moment. I suppose it doesn't really matter who makes it as long as it works.

Ron

[njlarsen]

One detail that sounds pretty strange:

Image stabilization is also disengaged for frame rates of 4fps and above (and for all frame rates unless the slightly confusing 'Sequential Shooting + IS Off' setting in the Custom menu isn't set to 'Off'). However, we found that the IS performance was considerably poorer when used with continuous shooting, so don't expect it to be there to hold your hand in low-light situations.

A couple of other issues that maybe or maybe not are important, but the low light capabilities could be advantageous given the relatively slow m4/3 long lenses

Niels

[rka]

OM-D with Panny 100-300 seems like a very good option according to some of the initial reviews.

[NoSpringChicken]

Originally Posted by rka

OM-D with Panny 100-300 seems like a very good option according to some of the initial reviews.

Yes the OM-D and either the Panasonic 100-300 or Olympus 75-300 sound as if they work well together. It seems that there is not a lot to choose between the two lenses but the Panasonic is much cheaper and comes with a lens hood and pouch. They both have quite small maximum apertures though and rather slow.

The OM-D seems to be a big hit and stocks are only now starting to catch up with demand, especially for the silver version. Apparently it is quite complicated to set up, as just about everything is customisable. It has recently been revealed that the sensor is made by Sony, which is a pleasant surprise and from what I can tell the image quality and noise levels are very good indeed. The main problem at the moment is that there haven't been any extra batteries available anywhere, although fresh stocks should be appearing soon

I would very much like an OM-D but I would have to sell some of my gear to afford one, so it will have to wait for the time being. Hopefully, in a few months the price will have come down a bit too.

Ron

[njlarsen]

See my quote in post 21 of this thread for the only drawback I really know of for the OM-D. There has been several threads on comparing the two long lenses on DPReview, and even though the 100-300 got some good press initially, the judgment is a little bit more up in the air recently, as there has been some very good images from the olympus lens. Slow yes, but with a sensor capable of high iso and image stabilization of the sensor in the OM-D, apparently not a lot to separate those two lenses. In my case with a GH2, there was no doubt, pana lens for me.

Niels

[rka]

"Image stabilization is also disengaged for frame rates of 4fps and above"

Will be interesting to see what happens with fps if OM-D IS is disengaged and Lens OIS engaged.

Will get a chance to test shortly.