[Blackstart]

Hi all-

I have been using a well-worn copy of Svensson et al "Birds of Europe", Princeton, copyright 1999.

Does the most recent edition of this field guide (i guess Collins) include anything that isn't in the one I have?

Thanks.

-Adam

[StuartReeves]

The Collins guide is by Svensson et al so I guess you have the same book, only in a US edition hence the different publisher. I believe there are some minor corrections in the most recent (paperback) editon of the Collins guide but the species covered are the same.

Stuart

[Blackstart]

Thanks, Stuart.

So no new plates? Good to know I can keep using this edition until it falls apart.

-Adam

[Jasonbirder]

I believe a new edition with new plates is under preparation as we speak....but could be a few years before it sees publication...
Particularly if they are working on it in specioes order - last thing I heard they were doing the plates for Little Shearwater...so they`ll have a way to go...

[Blackstart]

Thats good to know, Jason.

I do hope the Yellow-legged Gull group will get some expanded treatment. Though who knows what the taxonomy will look like at the time of publication.

-Adam

[Harry Hussey]

Hi all,
I too have heard that a new edition with new plates is planned, though quite how long this will take to reach fruition is anyone's guess?
I remember telling Killian about how I found it difficult, while looking for a 'blue' Snow Goose at the North Slob, to be sure if I had seen that bird or a hybrid Snow x White-front hybrid until the bird flew, revealing a tail band (never did see that bird, though got a white morph there later that winter). Think he said that a similar bird down there shortly after the publication of the Collins Guide had him thinking that perhaps more detail could be included on such a pitfall...but don't quote me!
Harry

[Bluetail]

Is Killian doing the new plates? I do hope so.

[Edward]

Originally Posted by Bluetail

Is Killian doing the new plates? I do hope so.

I'd hope both he and Dan Zetterström are doing them, don't think there's anything to choose between them, both exceptionally good artists. I'll be first in the queue if and when a new edition comes out but are they really redoing all the plates? Seems a bit unnecessary in the vast majority of cases. I'd rather KM and DZ combine forces with Sibley (as writer) to produce the definitive North American guide!!

E

PS: Stop name dropping, Harry ;-)

[Harry Hussey]

Hi Edward,

Originally Posted by Edward

PS: Stop name dropping, Harry ;-)

You know, Dick Forsman told me that....
(don't really know Dick, btw, only met him once)
Harry

[Bluetail]

Originally Posted by Edward

I'd hope both he and Dan Zetterström are doing them, don't think there's anything to choose between them, both exceptionally good artists.

To be honest, I'd forgotten that Dan Zetterström was involved when I posted. My excuse is that, as you point out, their styles are so well matched they look like the work of one person. Categorically no criticism of Dan Zetterström intended! Feel quite embarrassed now...

[Swissboy]

Originally Posted by Bluetail

To be honest, I'd forgotten that Dan Zetterström was involved when I posted. My excuse is that, as you point out, their styles are so well matched they look like the work of one person. Categorically no criticism of Dan Zetterström intended! Feel quite embarrassed now...

Would be nice, however, if the two of them redid those plates of the North American songbirds. Those two plates are the only ones that really need a MAJOR redoing, I think. McQueen's art does not match the others' in this book.

Robert