[TWM]

Approx 30 Pilot Whales have been beached between Pitenweem and Anstruther in Fife. At least 20 have died.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19455719

[coal tit]

it is always sad to hear of such news as this there have been a number of theories why whales do this, which ever theorie it is thats been mentioned i would love to be proved
wrong but i myself can not see this problem being resolved if its anything to do with nature itself it would take more than a genious to do that.

[Farnboro John]

Originally Posted by TWM

Approx 30 Pilot Whales have been beached between Pitenweem and Anstruther in Fife. At least 20 have died.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-19455719

The stranding was mentioned on RBA. Why oh why was the rest of the pod, nearby but swimming freely, not mentioned? Dohh!

John

[TWM]

Looks like some have made it.
Most unusual to get Pilot Whales in the North Sea.

[tyson7]

Originally Posted by TWM

Looks like some have made it.
Most unusual to get Pilot Whales in the North Sea.

I think the pilot whale that died in the thames was originally beached in Northumberland. I wonder if they will head north or south. I would assume north

[TWM]

North should get them into Loch Leven!! Lol

[tyson7]

Any news on them?

[TWM]

Yes--they have headed out of the Forth into the North Sea--24 plus 10 that didn't get involved

[tyson7]

Cheers. I heard that unfortunatley one of them re-stranded and died

[Farnboro John]

Originally Posted by tyson7

Cheers. I heard that unfortunatley one of them re-stranded and died

The report doesn't say that, just that it was found dead. It could have died swimming and drifted ashore. Please do not introduce non-facts.

John

[tyson7]

Originally Posted by Farnboro John

The report doesn't say that, just that it was found dead. It could have died swimming and drifted ashore. Please do not introduce non-facts.

John

My deepest apologies sir. However i didn't introduce any non-facts, i simply said what i had heard as clearly stated.

Next time i will make sure i check its ok to make any comments with yourself before writing them on this forum(which i assumed must be owned by you). Thanks for the advice though.

[snlw]

Still c22 in Dalgety Bay as per RBA.

[Farnboro John]

Originally Posted by tyson7

My deepest apologies sir. However i didn't introduce any non-facts, i simply said what i had heard as clearly stated.

Next time i will make sure i check its ok to make any comments with yourself before writing them on this forum(which i assumed must be owned by you). Thanks for the advice though.

Mark and I spent much of yesterday looking for the whales. During the day the BBC updated its coverage on a number of occasions with information that would have been misleading if we were not on site to see for ourselves what was going on (or not).

36 hours awake (and dipping) may have affected my judgement in posting. I note your utter accuracy in saying you were reporting hearsay and apologise sincerely for the remark.

Please feel free to continue commenting on my forum.

John

[Isurus]

Originally Posted by Farnboro John

36 hours awake (and dipping)

Ouch. Unlucky chaps. I take it this would've been a UK lifer John?

[tyson7]

Originally Posted by Farnboro John

Mark and I spent much of yesterday looking for the whales. During the day the BBC updated its coverage on a number of occasions with information that would have been misleading if we were not on site to see for ourselves what was going on (or not).

36 hours awake (and dipping) may have affected my judgement in posting. I note your utter accuracy in saying you were reporting hearsay and apologise sincerely for the remark.

Please feel free to continue commenting on my forum.

John

No worries John.

Maybe this will be the start of a beautiful friendship.

[martin kitching]

I'm not sure it is that unusual; 4 strandings records for north east England between 1989-2002 (including 3 live strandings), live sightings from the Northumberland coast in 2007 and 2009, and a survey by Newcastle Uni in 2003-2005 revealed that a third of the commercial fishermen interviewed reported seeing the species off our coast in recent years. There are intermittent records going back as far as 1734. They're out there somewhere

cheers
martin

Originally Posted by TWM

Looks like some have made it.
Most unusual to get Pilot Whales in the North Sea.

[martin kitching]

Which one?

cheers
martin

Originally Posted by tyson7

I think the pilot whale that died in the thames was originally beached in Northumberland.

[martin kitching]

A quick summary, feel free to dispute any or all of these

26 Pilot Whales stranded at Pittenweem sometime before 7am on Sunday.
13 had already died, a further 3 died and 10 were refloated.
Early afternoon Monday, what was presumably the pod of 10 rescued animals turned up near Leith.
One died after stranding near the port there.
By late afternoon Monday, the pod were near the Forth Rail Bridge.
Late afternoon Tuesday a pod of Pilot Whales was still near the Forth Bridge and may be the rescued pod, the pod of 24 that didn't strand or a combination of the two.

Still some way to go to beat the pod of 63 which stranded in Northumberland in July 1734 and were killed by locals who made the sum of £10 by selling the blubber.

cheers
martin

[tyson7]

Originally Posted by martin kitching

Which one?

cheers
martin

Sorry i meant the bottlenosed whale that i think swan up the thames in 2006. I'm sure i got told that 2 whales of the same species had stranded afew days earlier & it was thought that the whale which died in the thames could have been one of those.

[martin kitching]

The most recent Northern Bottle-nosed Whale record for Northumberland is from 1914, and the only strandings in north east England in the 9 months leading up to the 2006 whale in the Thames were Harbour Porpoises. I'm not aware of any NB-nW strandings in the days leading up to the Thames stranding, but if there were any they weren't in Northumberland. Whoever is telling you these things really isn't doing you any favours :-)

cheers
martin

Originally Posted by tyson7

Sorry i meant the bottlenosed whale that i think swan up the thames in 2006. I'm sure i got told that 2 whales of the same species had stranded afew days earlier & it was thought that the whale which died in the thames could have been one of those.

[tyson7]

Originally Posted by martin kitching

The most recent Northern Bottle-nosed Whale record for Northumberland is from 1914, and the only strandings in north east England in the 9 months leading up to the 2006 whale in the Thames were Harbour Porpoises. I'm not aware of any NB-nW strandings in the days leading up to the Thames stranding, but if there were any they weren't in Northumberland. Whoever is telling you these things really isn't doing you any favours :-)

cheers
martin

Yeh don't think he mentioned 1914. If i ever see the guy again i will ask him. I assume its me remebering wrongly not him giving me the wrong information. Too many hits to the head

[snlw]

Good (but a bit distant) views yesterday with Mark & John between c9.00 - 17.00 hrs. Still in the area after we left (Long-finned pilot whale (x24) - Culcross heading to Kirkadine, Fife at 19:45 on 6 Sep 2012 by John Nadinea) as per Sea Watch Foundation web site.
Cheers, Simon

[TWM]

Is that Culross to Kincardine? That would put them well upriver!

[edenwatcher]

'Fraid so.

Rob

[TWM]

Not good!!