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也称为赫安哲
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Shenyang, Liaoning
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Following the convention around here, I am opening a thread dedicated to those few determined, brave folks who dare birdwatch in the largest and dirtiest city north of Beijing.
My results will rarely be noteworthy, but should some poor wayward soul ever need search this forum for Shenyang or 沈阳 this thread shall stand as a beacon in the smog! ![]() Come what may, we struggle ever forwards comrades! |
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也称为赫安哲
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Date: 2013-01-19
Area: HunHe river bend, south of Shenyang University of Technology 地区:浑河河曲,从沈阳工业大学往南走 Weather: -15 ~ -20C, relatively clear air (== PPM2.5 at 150~250) Location 1 Sightings (0900):
Location 2 Sightings (1000):
Comments A short list made memorable by the staggering number of mallards and shelducks hiding behind an island a bit further down the river stretching their wings. NOTE! I have (and shall forever after) attached a Google Earth .KMZ file illustrating the birding locations. I think this is a wonderful way to help any future visitors get up to speed on whereabouts to go in your area. Last edited by AndrewHeath : Monday 21st January 2013 at 21:58. Reason: typo |
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Looking forward to this Andrew. I'm sure Shenyang isn't that bad, it's just waiting to be discovered. There is amazing birding in Panjin, Dandong, and Dalian so Shenyang must have some fantastic places as well. I'm sure there is a big push of migrants through there in late April and early May.
There is a wetland just north of Shenyang in Faku County that Terry Townshend and I visited last March for the Siberian Crane festival. It is famous as a Siberian Crane staging area on migration and also gets hundreds of geese. The place looked like it would be absolutely amazing during spring migration time for just about any wetland species. It is set up for birding with easy access all the way around it. The drive from the crazy building (you know the one I'm talking about!) in downtown Shenyang to the wetland was about one hour. Again, very much looking forward to this. Tom |
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You have been under rating your patch Andrew. The no. of Ruddy's n Mallard's you got is a pretty good flock.
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也称为赫安哲
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Ah don't get me wrong, we do good volume on the river with certain species (Ruddys, Mallards, Gray Herons...) but we are very poor on biodiversity. That's always the victim of urbanization...
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I love the count number for the tree sparrows, Andrew.
Stay warm! JH |
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也称为赫安哲
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Date: 2013-01-26
Area: Yuhong Water Management District 地区: 黄海公园 Weather: -25C, visibility 250m (== PPM2.5 at 450+) Location Sightings (0800):
Comments This was a terribly disappointing trip. If you view the attached KMZ within Google Earth you can see that the place in question is a neat splotch of forest in an otherwise heavily urbanized area. Typically these are great spots to see all manner of birds in winter - an urban oasis. Sadly, it seems that within the last 3 or 4 weeks they have sealed off access to the public. I've been by here numerous times over the past year on other business and was very much looking forwards to a long morning spent birdwatching. I was just a bit too late. The kindly fellow manning the main gate assured me that no commonfolk were allowed inside, and that that had always been the case. However, the half-dozen newly repaired breaks in the perimeter fence made it clear that I had only just missed my chance. I walked the perimeter nonetheless. The only species spotted are listed above. Pictured below are a very cold Azure-winged Magpie and a saucy pooch who taunted me from inside the fence. The magpie is in black and white because the awful air quality today made for rather unflattering colors on an otherwise lovely bird.Last edited by AndrewHeath : Saturday 26th January 2013 at 03:22. Reason: typo |
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Andrew, glad to see you persisting - its an encouragement to those who don't necessarily have great sites, and a good reminder to me to keep trying despite limits and modest success.
I really like the Azure Winged too, and have hardly seen any this winter - I usually see a few more in winter time. Is the name of the place really "gongyuan"? I didn't realize that people could have no access to something labeled "public garden". Tough break! Like you, I've walked along fences and thought that something good might be seen. Weirdly, when good birding is supposed to be found on habitat fringes, that it always seems to me that birds stay well away from fences ![]() |
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也称为赫安哲
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The Chinese name is, in fact, Yellow Sea Public Park. There is an east-west running narrow strip - no more than 50 meters wide - along the northernmost edge that has been developed into a typical Chinese city park. The rest is aggressively fenced off. Based on old aerial photos in Google Earth I think the fencing is a rather recent (say, last 5 years) development. I remain hopeful that the same locals who broke through the fencing in numerous places in the past return to do the same in short order. ![]() |
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groovin' on the 35th floor...
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Dunno if it's being the wrong side of the bamboo curtain or my using a mac but both your .kmz files return a BF error message...
Urban birding...always fun! Keep the faith and book some travel plans to keep you hungry! ATB McM |
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Mike Kilburn
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Sorry to hear about your disappointing morning - totally agree that good habitat inside cities can be excellent.
That dog is great - deadly looking canines - but a bit pathetic for pointing up instead of down, but no matter - definitely better to be on the other side of the fence. I wonder why the park is fenced off. If its really was a gongyuan then maybe some scumbag has mad an illegal grab for the land. Cheers Mike
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也称为赫安哲
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Date: 2013-01-27
Area: HunHe west, north bank 地区:浑河西部,北河岸 Weather: -30C, fog Location Sightings (0730):
Comments The bullfinch goes on the life-list. I got a long, steady look at him from close range and the telltale features were all noted, but because it was so very early in the morning, he was backlit, he was dirty, and because I'd never recorded one before... I returned home uncertain. Seeing that Tom spotted a few more in Dalian at the same time was enough to push me over the edge, though. The lack of diversity was compensated for by the sheer pleasure of watching the ruddys and mergansers dabbling and diving about for breakfast as fog rolled by. Groups of ducks would come in and out of view in the mists while the steady chorus of honks and such drifted over the water. The only downside to the morning was the temperature. It was -25C at my house and I rode my bike down to the river dressed accordingly. However, away from the passive radiant heat of the urban environment, it was fully 5 degrees colder. That put me well-past my comfort range. My water bottle was frozen solid in only 30 minutes, the hub on my bike was threatening to lock up, the focus knob on my all-weather Nikons turned like glue, and I ended up having to rather hurry home lest my numb toes became something quite a bit worse. ![]() In the end no lasting harm, but I think I'm going to draw the line at -20C from now on unless I've got a combustion engine-powered vehicle nearby..!
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也称为赫安哲
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For the past two weeks, without fail, every morning a flock of 30 to 40 Bohemian Waxwings has breakfast in the courtyard of my company's factory park. While 12,000 employees stream by they merrily attack the dried and frozen berries still hanging on the trees and bushes.
While the field guides will tell you the BW is common in Liaoning during winter, from 2007 to 2012 I only saw two birds. In short, you need to be somewhere with a berry supply, and there are precious few such spots in Shenyang. So it has been with great pleasure that I walk to my office each morning surrounded by the BW trills. This morning, Saturday, I woke up to our clearest skies in months - only 30 on the PPM2.5 scale! A strong wind had blown all night and a beautiful blue sky was waiting for me... but not for long! I grabbed my camera and tele and zipped over to the office to await the flock. Sure enough at 7:45 they came in over the factories and settled into the trees. I spent the next 90 minutes following them around the courtyard shooting as many shots as possible. Of course our air quality has gone to smog again as I write this in the evening, but for a brief morning I got to experience fantastic photography conditions with rather friendly birds. Some highlights are below.
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Wonderful Andrew!
Waxwings are special birds. If you have to wait for your quality birds it's fantastic when they are absolutely stellar! Cheers Mike
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Nice shots, and sounds like a very enjoyable morning. I understand the obstacles of the cold and the smog - we've just escaped for 2 weeks - it really has been an unusually challenging winter.
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Dont know if theyre on sale in China- but theyre probably made there.
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I've never heard of heated boots... socks with 9volt batteries, yes, or chemical-heat inserts. But full on boots? Nope. Do you happen to know of any brands? I'd certainly be interested in having a look!
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Man, you had the Bullfinch and Waxies. That too Waxwings in your factory compound. Love those shots especially the tossing.
"Andrew's Journal" is hilarious, i have been laughing since morning. You made my day brother.
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Good luck for your tootsies !
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They can be bought at any Decathlon for around 20-30rmb for the hand versions I think and 30-40rmb for the feet version.Alternatively there are now those heated reusable in-soles that can be imported from the USA (good for ca. 2,000 uses and cost around $60-70 if I remember correctly). Last edited by Frogfish : Thursday 7th February 2013 at 01:59. |
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Andrew,
I wear "Mickies". They are US Army boots from the Korean War. They are white, huge, and far too heavy, but work much like a thermos. They are available online only for around $70. You want the white ones, not the black ones. I too have poor circulation and had problems with cold toes for years. For my hands I wear mittens that have the last three fingers togethers and the forefinger in a separate space so you can still take photos and focus binoculars. Most of the time my fingers are still in a fist inside my mittens trying to get warm however..... Tom |
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On February 3rd my father arrived for a two week visit coinciding with Spring Festival... he's a hardcore birder, and this is our tale of woe and redemption!
Date: Feb 8th through 14th Area: Shenyang Qipanshan, Benxi, Benxi Countryside, Dandong Environs 地区:沈阳棋盘山,本溪市,本溪农村,丹东附近 Weather: -10C ~ -25C Location 1 - Shenyang Qipanshan: We have a new house - half a duplex - just a km or two north of the International Horticultural Gardens (aka "Expo Gardens"). We closed on it in December and will decorate and furnish this spring and summer. On the Friday before LNY proper we took my father out to have a look and did a quick bit of birding in the neighborhood...
Location 2 - Benxi City Park: My dad has spent the last 35 years of his life in sunny south Florida. He was deeply worried about dealing with two weeks of NE Chinese winter. I encouraged (punished?) him by making him walk the Benxi City Park at 0800 in -25C weather... a wise decision in the end!
Location 3 - Benxi Geology Museum: This is adjacent to the far better known Benxi Water Cave. While the museum itself was freezing (no heat, inexplicably) the fossils were awesome. 5 minutes in the parking lot and we bagged...
Part 2 - Dandong! Mind you, our forum friend DongBei had just been through this exact area the week before and went home with a stunning array of species sighted. I spent the entire first week of my dad's visit talking up our two-day trip... big mistake! There's only one Tom and I ain't him! The plan was to visit the Hushan Great Wall the first afternoon, then hit the famous wetlands on the second morning... Location 4 - Dandong Hushan Great Wall:
Also, being cheeky bastards, we spotted a Eurasian Magpie sitting in a tree over the border in DPRK and I dutifully recorded it. I am now ranked 5th on the list of DPRK eBird members with my solitary sighting. ![]() Location 5 - Yalu River Wetlands Park: On the second morning we got up early and drove down to the famous Yalu river mouth wetlands park. Tom is probably chuckling to himself as he reads this... we discovered that in mid-February the wetlands park is pack-ice as far as the eye can see. No water, of course, means no waterfowl. That was a huge screw-up. So we loaded back in the car and began winding our way along the coast towards Dandong. By 1000 the only noteworthy avifauna spotted was a flock of Eastern Spot-billed ducks in a ditch. By 1030 we had returned to the outskirts of Dandong proper and were basically packing it in and making plans to return to the hotel and checkout, utterly defeated. On a lark I suggested we hop over to Moon Island (月亮岛) and see if we can get a gull or two at the downstream point. Our fortunes were changing...
![]() We froze, and then I whistled for my father-in-law to scurry over with our telezoom so I could snap some photos. In the end we realized that this was a rather tame specimen, not the least bit threatened by us and perhaps even somewhat disappointed we hadn't brought it some sausages. ![]() The Korean peninsula seems to be the very easternmost reaches of its range, and the global numbers aren't so good. The possibility remains that this is a zoo escapee, or perhaps even some rich Chinese's humorous idea of a pet... but however it came to be in the area, it was very much a wild bird and a stunning one at that. So, while our final Dandong trip count was a paltry dozen or so species, it ended on a very high note and my father will not soon forget suddenly being eyeball-to-eyeball with one of the largest raptors in the world!
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Every mention of Pallas' Rosefinch grips me off - even though I saw them in Beijing in 1990. . .
I also have some wonderful memories of Black Vulture so can thoroughly empathise with your superb finish! Cheers Mike
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The headshot of the "MONK" is simply superb. I did a quick check in birdtalker and there are reports from Dandong and Jilin. So you have every reason that it's a wild one.
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That's a long time Mike. Why don't you get on the steel bird and say hello to your old friends?
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