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Old Wednesday 22nd May 2013, 18:24   #1
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Pink Blue Jay in Canada?

Hi all,

Is it normal or regular to get this colour in Blue Jays?

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Old Wednesday 22nd May 2013, 18:56   #2
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Hi all,

Is it normal or regular to get this colour in Blue Jays?

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Do they go this colour in the cold?
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Old Wednesday 22nd May 2013, 19:07   #3
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Wow, it looks as if there is no blue pigment what-so-ever. No that's not right is it? Is Blue in feathers produced by a pigment or by another mechanism?
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Someone has been playing around in "Photo Shop"!
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I received the photo from a non-birder woman in Canada, I don't think there is any wish of cheating people. Let me ask again to be sure the photo is not second hand...

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With the hundreds of Blue Jays, maybe even thousands in all my years, I have never, ever seen anything like this.

That said, if it is a Photoshop image, then it is a damn fine job because I examined this blown up in size inch by inch and can't see any errors.
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Old Wednesday 22nd May 2013, 19:34   #7
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It's a "cut-out" - you let the software select all the blue for you, and replace it with pink. Unlike painting over by hand, there won't be any detectable errors.

The orginal is floating around the web in several copies, here's one:

http://www.talismancoins.com/catalog...try_Branch.jpg

I take back the part about "no detectable errors". If you look closely at the background, you can see that some faint blue tones within the grey shadows have also turned pink. The branch and breast actually seem bluer than before - perhaps he realized they looked too pink and tried to restore their original blueness, but overcompensated.
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It's a "cut-out" - you let the software select all the blue for you, and replace it with pink. Unlike painting over by hand, there won't be any detectable errors.
Yes, easy enough to do, in a number of different applications ... the company I work for had something that does just this same thing, in any colour you want...
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Far too bright a pink. Even in the case of mutations, this is too bright for this sort of bird IMO and considering the rest of the plumage is perfect.

Now if it was duller and browner, then it would be more convincing.

But yeah, original photo there proves it was a hoax.
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Definitely photoshopped... easy to do! Not possible to have a pink Blue Jay.

I didn't try very hard like the original photoshopper...

But, hey, look the Jay is blue again:

[edit: oh, yeah, here is the original image (and it's a "blue" Blue Jay):
http://www.wallpaperhi.com/Animals/B...load_1920x1080]
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Wow, it looks as if there is no blue pigment what-so-ever. No that's not right is it? Is Blue in feathers produced by a pigment or by another mechanism?
The blue is produced by the micro-structure of the feathers.
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What purpose does this serve?

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What purpose does this serve?
What purpose does what serve?
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I asked the photographer, and this is a second hand photo. So no proof it is original...so the HOAX theory seems the best... sorry then!
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I think it serves to help someone from outside North America to fully answer a question someone else had asked him.

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