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Mícheál · Friday 19th November 2004, 16:20

Hi,

I am a rookie trainee ringer and have tried all the usual bookshops in vain for a fourth edition of "Identification guide to European passerines" by Lars Svensson. Does anyone on this forum have a spare copy/copy for sale at the moment?

Any leads welcomed!

Thanks, I really enjoy lurking here, but haven't had anything worth contributing yet.

Mícheál

**KCFoggin** · Friday 19th November 2004, 16:33

Hello Micheal and on behalf of those of us on staff here, a very warm welcome to you.

You've posted your query in the right spot and should get more attention here so good luck on your search.

Ghostly Vision · Friday 19th November 2004, 16:33

Hello Mícheál and welcome to Birdforum.

Don't worry, I too have very little to say, but I often make the mistake of saying it anyway!!

You could try NHBS, or maybe Birding world books?

All the best

Sean

Jane Turner · Friday 19th November 2004, 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mícheál

Hi,

I am a rookie trainee ringer and have tried all the usual bookshops in vain for a fourth edition of "Identification guide to European passerines" by Lars Svensson. Does anyone on this forum have a spare copy/copy for sale at the moment?

Any leads welcomed!

Thanks, I really enjoy lurking here, but haven't had anything worth contributing yet.

Mícheál

If you get really stuck I'd be willing to loan you my copy... I'm not ringing at the moment but do refer to it on a weekly basis. Let me know how you get on... it has my own notes on it of course!

Bluetail · Friday 19th November 2004, 17:02

They're like gold dust, I believe. According to Bookfinder.com there's a completely revised and updated edition (they say fourth, but presumably mean fifth) due out next year. Wonder what I'd get for my old third edition?

Mícheál · Friday 19th November 2004, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane Turner

If you get really stuck I'd be willing to loan you my copy... I'm not ringing at the moment but do refer to it on a weekly basis. Let me know how you get on... it has my own notes on it of course!

I really appreciate the offer Jane, but given the nature of its intended use, if I lose, damage or dampen a copy, I would prefer it was my own.

Regarding the editions, I think the new and revised edition which is in preparation is the fifth, but that is apparently delayed again, so there may be just a re-print of the fourth ed. coming up

However, I have been unable to get a firm date anywhere for any of these events, so I have decided to go looking for a copy online, as I would like to have the use of a copy while I am training.

I must say I am really surprised and heartened by the number of replies on this thread in such a short time, I might hit paydirt yet!

Mícheál

Jane Turner · Friday 19th November 2004, 17:15

I do have a third ed somewhere too...

Jane Turner · Friday 19th November 2004, 17:27

http://www.booksandcollectibles.com....k_id=108389991

Mícheál · Saturday 20th November 2004, 10:25

Hi Jane, I would buy a 3rd edition if you are selling - I haven't seen a 3rd edition but can't imagine that the changes between the 3rd and 4th editions would be very extensive.

Thanks for the link, but unfortunately that bookseller seems to be just taking advance orders for the 5th edition, whose publication date is really not known, and the offer seems a little speculative to me. Am I being unfair to www.booksandcollectibles.com? Nobody else seems to know when it is going to be published, including the BTO................

Mícheál

ESTEBANNIC · Thursday 2nd December 2004, 08:36

To follow up on this thread, can anyone offfer any other info of where in europe a copy of this book maybe available??

*I'm also dying to get my hands on a copy of this book-spanish version would do aswell*

alcedo.atthis · Friday 3rd December 2004, 17:13

"To follow up on this thread, can anyone offfer any other info of where in europe a copy of this book maybe available??"

ESTEBANNIC, Mícheál, et all interested,
Due to the ongoing interest in this book, I e-mailed Jacquie at the ringing unit of the BTO for an update on the projected publication date. Here is the reply which I received :-

"Sorry, we are chasing it up with Svensson, but he doesn't have a date yet. We are also trying to get a reprint of the current edition.

Jacquie."

So there it is at the moment. A re-print of the current version may be available prior to the new version, as Svensson is so busy with so many things at present, the timescale for publication seems to be slipping into the near distant future rather than the near future.
There are only 24 hours in a day, and one cannot do everything that everyone else requires along with one's own work.

Regards

Malky.

ESTEBANNIC · Friday 3rd December 2004, 20:08

Thanks for the info Malky. Appreciated.

Friday 19th November 2004, 16:20	#1
Mícheál Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 209	Second-hand Svensson? Hi, I am a rookie trainee ringer and have tried all the usual bookshops in vain for a fourth edition of "Identification guide to European passerines" by Lars Svensson. Does anyone on this forum have a spare copy/copy for sale at the moment? Any leads welcomed! Thanks, I really enjoy lurking here, but haven't had anything worth contributing yet. Mícheál

Friday 19th November 2004, 16:33	#2
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Bluetail Senior Moment Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Plymouth, Devon Posts: 6,409	They're like gold dust, I believe. According to Bookfinder.com there's a completely revised and updated edition (they say fourth, but presumably mean fifth) due out next year. Wonder what I'd get for my old third edition? __________________ Jason Come doleful owl, the messenger of woe, Melancholy's bird, companion of Despair, Sorrow's best friend and Mirth's professed foe The chief discourser that delights sad Care. O come, poor owl, and tell thy woes to me. Which having heard, I'll do the like for thee. (Anon c.1607)
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Jane Turner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hoylake, Merseyside Posts: 19,578 My location	I do have a third ed somewhere too... __________________ If I'm not online I'm probably here! Last Cheshire Lesser Scaup (301) last Red Rocks Cetti's Warbler (249), last Garden Avocet (202), last Self-found Great White Egret (293)
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Friday 19th November 2004, 17:27	#8
Jane Turner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hoylake, Merseyside Posts: 19,578 My location	http://www.booksandcollectibles.com....k_id=108389991 __________________ If I'm not online I'm probably here! Last Cheshire Lesser Scaup (301) last Red Rocks Cetti's Warbler (249), last Garden Avocet (202), last Self-found Great White Egret (293)
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Friday 19th November 2004, 16:33	#3
Ghostly Vision Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: England Posts: 2,444	Hello Mícheál and welcome to Birdforum. Don't worry, I too have very little to say, but I often make the mistake of saying it anyway!! You could try NHBS, or maybe Birding world books? All the best Sean

Saturday 20th November 2004, 10:25	#9
Mícheál Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 209	Hi Jane, I would buy a 3rd edition if you are selling - I haven't seen a 3rd edition but can't imagine that the changes between the 3rd and 4th editions would be very extensive. Thanks for the link, but unfortunately that bookseller seems to be just taking advance orders for the 5th edition, whose publication date is really not known, and the offer seems a little speculative to me. Am I being unfair to www.booksandcollectibles.com? Nobody else seems to know when it is going to be published, including the BTO................ Mícheál

Thursday 2nd December 2004, 08:36	#10
ESTEBANNIC Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mallorca, Spain Posts: 315	To follow up on this thread, can anyone offfer any other info of where in europe a copy of this book maybe available?? I'm also dying to get my hands on a copy of this book-spanish version would do aswell Last edited by ESTEBANNIC : Thursday 2nd December 2004 at 08:47.

Friday 3rd December 2004, 17:13	#11
alcedo.atthis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Westhill, Scotland Posts: 1,246	"To follow up on this thread, can anyone offfer any other info of where in europe a copy of this book maybe available??" ESTEBANNIC, Mícheál, et all interested, Due to the ongoing interest in this book, I e-mailed Jacquie at the ringing unit of the BTO for an update on the projected publication date. Here is the reply which I received :- "Sorry, we are chasing it up with Svensson, but he doesn't have a date yet. We are also trying to get a reprint of the current edition. Jacquie." So there it is at the moment. A re-print of the current version may be available prior to the new version, as Svensson is so busy with so many things at present, the timescale for publication seems to be slipping into the near distant future rather than the near future. There are only 24 hours in a day, and one cannot do everything that everyone else requires along with one's own work. Regards Malky.

Friday 3rd December 2004, 20:08	#12
ESTEBANNIC Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mallorca, Spain Posts: 315	Thanks for the info Malky. Appreciated.

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