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Old Monday 29th November 2004, 17:24   #1
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An easy raptor ID, I'm sure...

Here's one I'm sure is probably pretty easy, but I'm not really sure on it. The photographer says it's a female Goshawk, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't seem right. Presumably shot in Europe, likely Spain. I just don't know European birds at all.

http://www.photoexposure.com/search....5397,5396,5395

Please let me know what it is. Thanks!



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Old Monday 29th November 2004, 17:59   #2
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Here's one I'm sure is probably pretty easy, but I'm not really sure on it. The photographer says it's a female Goshawk, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't seem right. Presumably shot in Europe, likely Spain. I just don't know European birds at all.

http://www.photoexposure.com/search....5397,5396,5395

Please let me know what it is. Thanks!
These pictures seem to show Harris Hawk Parabuteo unicinctus. The images captioned 'Gorgeous Female' and 'Impressing II' appear to show a juvenile/1st year bird.

Harris Hawk is found in central America, parts of South Americs and northwards across the border into Texas.

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Old Monday 29th November 2004, 19:11   #3
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These pictures seem to show Harris Hawk Parabuteo unicinctus. The images captioned 'Gorgeous Female' and 'Impressing II' appear to show a juvenile/1st year bird.

Harris Hawk is found in central America, parts of South Americs and northwards across the border into Texas.

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First year Harris' Hawk was actually my first impression, but there were a few inconsistencies. Most notably the photo titled "Impressing" shows broad white sections under the wings that I don't remember seing on young Harrises. Also, the bird is not jessed, indicating it is a wild specimen, and I believe the photos were shot in Europe. It's always possible they were not. The background would certainly be consistent with the North American Southwest deserts.

Harris' Hawk is still my suspicion, but any other ideas would be appreciated.
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Old Monday 29th November 2004, 19:30   #4
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It is a Harris Hawk without doubt.
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First year Harris' Hawk was actually my first impression, but there were a few inconsistencies. Most notably the photo titled "Impressing" shows broad white sections under the wings that I don't remember seing on young Harrises.
First year Harris Hawk do show broad pale/white sections on the underwing.
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Hi Peacock,
I agree with Tristan, this is a Harris's Hawk. It may well have been photographed in Europe: the species is commonly held in captivity, and it is very likely that this bird belonged to the photographer....
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Have just typed Goshawk in the search engine and it does in fact bring up stills of a Goshawk. Where does it actually say that these Harris Hawks are Goshawks?
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Have just typed Goshawk in the search engine and it does in fact bring up stills of a Goshawk. Where does it actually say that these Harris Hawks are Goshawks?
It does not say that. The keywords indicating that the bird is a goshawk were removed before the photo was posted.
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