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erik · Wednesday 12th February 2003, 19:24

This article was in the dutch newspaper today. I'm freely translating it. My question is what your solution would be...

Problems in Haarlem dunes because of fallow deer

AMSTERDAM - After a huntingprohibit in the Amsterdam dunes, the amount of Fallow deer in that area, near Haarlem has explosively raised. The number of female deer raise with 43 procent in one year and causes more and more damage to the dunes.

This is what Mrs Maij, member of the city council of Amsterdam, wrote in a letter to the city council. In this letter she asks the council to think of eventual solutions for this problem. In 1996, there was 1 incident with a fallow deer, in 2001 there were 40. Animal-ambulance, police and civilians, more and more notice unsafe situations along the roads.
By estimation there are about 700 animals in the area that is owned by the capital. Since 1997 the hunt to control the population is prohibited for Roe Deer and Fallow Deer.
Mrs Maij says that she doesn't have a view on founded data about populatios of fallow deer in Europe because those are shot almost everyewhere in Europe. A research shows that in theory it would be possible that in 20 years the dunes will be the home of 3400 - 6800 female fallow deer.
The natural enemy of the fallow deer, the wolf doesn't live in the area.

http://www.bondbeterleefmilieu.be/dv...es/damhert.gif

I think they should start to control the group again in some way. Those animals are beautiful but should be restricted.

erik · Wednesday 12th February 2003, 19:27

Sorry, the URL doesnt work, just find a pic yourself on the net when you dont know what a fallow deer looks like

paula · Wednesday 12th February 2003, 20:15

Sadly, there is just not enough room for wildlife to do its own thing, and nowhere is that more clearly demonstrated than in the Netherlands.
Yes, I presume that they have to be 'managed', which means: culled, which means: selectively killed, not for 'sport' but quietly by a good marksman.

T0ny · Wednesday 12th February 2003, 20:35

Erik,
A spurious space has appeared in the URL - if it's removed, the link is fine !
Tony

erik · Thursday 13th February 2003, 13:23

Thanx Tony!

The link is now available!

Paula, i totally agree!! They could as well put out wolves in the netherlands again, would be thrilling!! But i dont know if it would be good for the ecosystem

Wednesday 12th February 2003, 19:24	#1
erik cheesehead Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deventer, NL Posts: 635 My location	fallow deer problems This article was in the dutch newspaper today. I'm freely translating it. My question is what your solution would be... Problems in Haarlem dunes because of fallow deer AMSTERDAM - After a huntingprohibit in the Amsterdam dunes, the amount of Fallow deer in that area, near Haarlem has explosively raised. The number of female deer raise with 43 procent in one year and causes more and more damage to the dunes. This is what Mrs Maij, member of the city council of Amsterdam, wrote in a letter to the city council. In this letter she asks the council to think of eventual solutions for this problem. In 1996, there was 1 incident with a fallow deer, in 2001 there were 40. Animal-ambulance, police and civilians, more and more notice unsafe situations along the roads. By estimation there are about 700 animals in the area that is owned by the capital. Since 1997 the hunt to control the population is prohibited for Roe Deer and Fallow Deer. Mrs Maij says that she doesn't have a view on founded data about populatios of fallow deer in Europe because those are shot almost everyewhere in Europe. A research shows that in theory it would be possible that in 20 years the dunes will be the home of 3400 - 6800 female fallow deer. The natural enemy of the fallow deer, the wolf doesn't live in the area. http://www.bondbeterleefmilieu.be/dv...es/damhert.gif I think they should start to control the group again in some way. Those animals are beautiful but should be restricted. __________________ Migrational Miracle Last edited by erik : Thursday 13th February 2003 at 13:22.

Wednesday 12th February 2003, 19:27	#2
erik cheesehead Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deventer, NL Posts: 635 My location	Sorry, the URL doesnt work, just find a pic yourself on the net when you dont know what a fallow deer looks like __________________ Migrational Miracle Last edited by erik : Wednesday 12th February 2003 at 19:29.

Wednesday 12th February 2003, 20:15	#3
paula Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Devon UK Posts: 305	Sadly, there is just not enough room for wildlife to do its own thing, and nowhere is that more clearly demonstrated than in the Netherlands. Yes, I presume that they have to be 'managed', which means: culled, which means: selectively killed, not for 'sport' but quietly by a good marksman. __________________ paula http://www.wildlifeandphoto.net

Wednesday 12th February 2003, 20:35	#4
T0ny Okillre Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Paston, Norfolk, UK Posts: 1,091	Erik, A spurious space has appeared in the URL - if it's removed, the link is fine ! Tony __________________ When in Danger or in Doubt - Run in circles, scream and shout.

Thursday 13th February 2003, 13:23	#5
erik cheesehead Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deventer, NL Posts: 635 My location	Thanx Tony! The link is now available! Paula, i totally agree!! They could as well put out wolves in the netherlands again, would be thrilling!! But i dont know if it would be good for the ecosystem __________________ Migrational Miracle

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