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Old Monday 16th December 2013, 12:48   #26
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I hope it is good, not everyone can aford the crazy price's for super telephoto lenses and many of us have been there looking for reach yet not getting IQ with the reach.

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Just seen that Tamron France are releasing the lens in February so I would guess the UK would be around then as well.
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Old Saturday 21st December 2013, 09:13   #28
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A couple of pics of the lens from one of the first real users. The first compares it against the 100-400, it is considerably bigger.
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Old Monday 23rd December 2013, 12:55   #29
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Just as an update the Canon mount lens is lunching in Japan today -
Now thats what I call a clever lens
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Old Wednesday 25th December 2013, 09:26   #30
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First user reviews trickling through - HERE is the first detailed review I have seen. Lost in translation at times but the reviewer is in no doubt that it is better at 600mm than the Canon 300/2.8 (MkI) + 2x tc (MkIII) It certainly looks that way from the test shots. Now IF that turns out to be the case then this lens will be a steal at the price.
I am hoping it turns out to be reasonably good as it will be a wake-up call to Canon and Nikon!
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Any hope Tamron will add m4/3 mount to their tele lenses?

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Old Wednesday 25th December 2013, 17:27   #32
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B&H and Adorama are taking preorders for the all mounts at $1069. The Canon Mount is coming in 3 weeks while the Nikon mount is a little over a month away.

I pre-ordered in Canada for $1199 cdn.
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First user reviews trickling through - HERE is the first detailed review I have seen. Lost in translation at times but the reviewer is in no doubt that it is better at 600mm than the Canon 300/2.8 (MkI) + 2x tc (MkIII) It certainly looks that way from the test shots. Now IF that turns out to be the case then this lens will be a steal at the price.
I am hoping it turns out to be reasonably good as it will be a wake-up call to Canon and Nikon!
That review helped convince me to take a chance and pre-order the lens. I know that I need to try it out myself for a few weeks/season and the low price will limit my risk if I end up selling it.
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Any hope Tamron will add m4/3 mount to their tele lenses?

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I doubt it. I have enjoyed using my Panasonic 100-300 for the past 3 years but I want to upgrade the lens and I don't see anything coming from m43 for a long while. I will likely pick up a used D7100 with this Tamron 150-600mm as it should be a good upgrade for the next few years and limits the total cost to $2k.
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Well, there is this one, but it is a bit more: http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-300-800m.../dp/B0009JKH78

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the single test shot i have seen looks ok,
but MTF:s at 600mm is not super,

but weight, flexibility and price
could make it a best buy,

Think Sigma has a 500mm/f4 on its way next year also (2014)
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the single test shot i have seen looks ok,
but MTF:s at 600mm is not super,

but weight, flexibility and price
could make it a best buy,

Think Sigma has a 500mm/f4 on its way next year also (2014)
The Tammy is looking to compete with the likes of the 100-400 + 1.4x tc and also the 400/5.6 + 1.4x tc - as well as the current lenses like the Siggy 150-500 - in that respect the MTF charts look quite good and the lens should be better than all these.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE DETAILED REVIEW HERE where the reviewer is comparing the Tammy against the Canon 300/2.8 + 2x tc and also the Canon 500/4 + 1.4x tc and Canon 800/5.6.
For a lens that Cost around 1000 euros and weighs less than 2 KG it fairs very well.

The new Sigma 500/4 will be a lot more expensive (more than 3000 euros) and also a lot heavier that's for sure.
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looking at the test linc Roy posted it really is offering great IQ and a very fair price too

it could turn out to be a great birding and aircraft lens .

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The Tammy is looking to compete with the likes of the 100-400 + 1.4x tc and also the 400/5.6 + 1.4x tc - as well as the current lenses like the Siggy 150-500 - in that respect the MTF charts look quite good and the lens should be better than all these.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE DETAILED REVIEW HERE where the reviewer is comparing the Tammy against the Canon 300/2.8 + 2x tc and also the Canon 500/4 + 1.4x tc and Canon 800/5.6.
For a lens that Cost around 1000 euros and weighs less than 2 KG it fairs very well.

The new Sigma 500/4 will be a lot more expensive (more than 3000 euros) and also a lot heavier that's for sure.
looks very descent,
IS seems to be the akilles of the tammy,
and maybe that +TC is not an option?

a 600/5,6, <=2,0 kg usable with 1,4xTC
with 4 stops VR/IS
priced under 2K I think would be a dream,

new sigma will be quite expensive and heavy,
true, but I suspect it will match at least Nikon 500/4
and older Canons,

Latest canon 500/4 IS II is hilarious sharp att f4,
and the price is to..

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One thing that caught my eye in that detailed review was just how much quicker the AF was on the FF (6D) against the 7D (irrelevant of lens used). I guess this is just because the 6D has a newer AF system OR is it always the case with FF v crop Camera. I must admit I had never even considered that a FF Camera would AF quicker than a crop as I always though AF speed was more to do with the lens!
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One thing that caught my eye in that detailed review was just how much quicker the AF was on the FF (6D) against the 7D (irrelevant of lens used). I guess this is just because the 6D has a newer AF system OR is it always the case with FF v crop Camera. I must admit I had never even considered that a FF Camera would AF quicker than a crop as I always though AF speed was more to do with the lens!
"The area where the 6D really shines, however, is in acquiring focus consistently in very low-light conditions. Canon has rated the center AF point's sensitivity at -3 EV, one stop lower than any full frame DSLR on the market. And our real world use with the camera bears out this impressive performance."

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-6d/12
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I think the shooting conditions favored 6D AF system as it was able to acquire focus quicker in low light with just the center AF. In good light the 7D tracking will be significantly better.
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roy i recently borrowed a 1dmk111 to test against the 7d ,to be quiet totally honest i was gobsmacked by the performance from what is only a 10mp camera and getting long in the tooth to.i will probably be looking to go down that route sometime next year when funds allow can't quite stretch my pension to a 1d4 but that should be even better .i guess its the old adage of you get what you pay for .the 1d3 raw files were a total joy to process and virtually popped out of the screen at me .
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If this new Tamron lens is as good as it looks in the few images and tests seen so far it could be a Godsend for those who can't stretch to the big primes. I have already decided that I need a longer zoom lens - I actually miss my old Sigma 170-500mm BUT the sharpness at the long end was, well, not great shall we say. The only caveat I can see at the moment is the lack of 70D on the compatibility list - and lack of funds for the time being
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The only caveat I can see at the moment is the lack of 70D on the compatibility list -
There is no reason whatsoever to suggest that the new Tammy will not run on a 70D Paul.
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There is no reason whatsoever to suggest that the new Tammy will not run on a 70D Paul.
I agree Roy, I am assuming that it's down to the camera not being available during development of the lens that has kept it off the list, but, it would still be nice to have Tamron confirm it - or somebody to do a test run

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roy i recently borrowed a 1dmk111 to test against the 7d ,to be quiet totally honest i was gobsmacked by the performance from what is only a 10mp camera and getting long in the tooth to.i will probably be looking to go down that route sometime next year when funds allow can't quite stretch my pension to a 1d4 but that should be even better .i guess its the old adage of you get what you pay for .the 1d3 raw files were a total joy to process and virtually popped out of the screen at me .
I know what you get what you pay for Jeff - I have a 5D3 and the AF performance from that is obviously superb. Having said that the 6D is cheaper than the 7D when that came out so why is that one so much faster at obtaining focus?. I think the answer is that the test shoots were taken in poor light and although the 6D is the cheapest FF or 1.3 crop camera that Canon make the center point AF sensitivity is the best, outperforming every other Canon DSLR - so in this respect you do not necessarily get what you pay for!!!!!
I would not be surprised if the Humble 70D was not faster at obtaining AF on a static subject than either the 1D3 or 1D4 as both these Cameras are getting on a bit now.

When you say you were gobsmacked by the 1D3 against the 7D - in what respect. There is no way that the 1D3 will capture the same amount of detail as the 7D for bird photography. The 1.3 croppers will obviously be better at high ISO noise performance than the 7D but nowadays the 6D,5D3 and 1DX make even the 1D3/4 look poor.

I have not got a 7D these day but if you are reach limited I still think it is the the best all round Canon Camera for Bird Photography (the 7D2 will be even better When it comes!!) - I most certainly would not give up a 7D for a 1D3 unless I could more or less fill the frame and avoid cropping.

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There are plenty of sample images starting to appear on the Japanese Forums. HERE is a shot taken at 600mm and wide open at f6.3 - does not look to shabby to me!
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Another review with many sample pics of birds

http://it.wyswig.com/2014/01/02/revi...nglish-review/
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