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Old Sunday 23rd March 2014, 00:28   #1
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Minox 15x56 bl MIG

I sent a short email to Doug at clny, I had a few questions on this model.

I recently sold the 15x58 ed that I had to another forum member.

I'm actually waiting to see the Zeiss Conquest HDS and compare them to the new Swarovski.

So while I'm waiting I thought I would give this newer model MINox a go.

Well I'm glad I did! Doug was spot on in his recommending this model.
If you do a search on these very little comes up!

A red flag maybe? That's what I was thinking!

Though I have my doubt's on being solely made in Germany, please look at the price.

The QC is first rate on these. Everything from build to the surprising optical quality, I'm floored really.

I will for sure be paying much more attention to this brand in the future.

I wish I had the ed's to compare first hand but, my gut feelings tell me these are better .

First is handling then focus, superb very smooth, light rresistance and accurate.
Diopter while I have now moved it one click it was dead on at zero!

Optics are very sharp with maybe just a hint of warmness, contrast is superb as well as the lack of ca which I found surprising.

All in all for what I'm into them for I can't complain.

For long distance viewing nothing compares to a good spotting scope.

But, the older I get the less I use a scope. The comfort of using two eyes for me trumps a scope any day.

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Old Sunday 23rd March 2014, 00:49   #2
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Bryce:

Have you compared the 15x56 to the 15x58ED ?

From what I have gathered in reading some reviews, the 15x58 has better optics, but is a bit heavier.

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Old Sunday 23rd March 2014, 02:13   #3
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Have you compared the 15x56 to the 15x58ED ?

From what I have gathered in reading some reviews, the 15x58 has better optics, but is a bit heavier.

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Jerry, I recently sold the 58 so while I don't have it in hand, I do have many miles with it.

These are so close i will go out on a limb and say better!

Definitely the overall package is better on these.

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Old Sunday 23rd March 2014, 02:30   #4
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Old Sunday 23rd March 2014, 02:34   #5
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Bryce, You sure have my attention!
I have enjoyed Minox through the years. They have very good binoculars. It is good that they have kept up with getting out products that are of a high quality. I wouldn't get the BV series, but you indicate there are models that would be very satisfying! Thanks for reporting on the BL 15x56 mig.
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Old Sunday 23rd March 2014, 02:38   #6
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Rob, I'm more than impressed.

So much so with this new model that I have a couple others on my short list from there HG and APO HG lines.

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Old Tuesday 25th March 2014, 01:14   #7
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Bryce

Do you know how they compare to the Action Extreme 16x50 ?

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Old Tuesday 25th March 2014, 01:44   #8
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Do you know how they compare to the Action Extreme 16x50 ?

Thanks Bruce
I can't comment on the Action Extreme 16x but, Doug was adiment in saying that the Minox were superior to the newer Nikon Monarch 5 16x56.

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Old Tuesday 25th March 2014, 01:48   #9
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I can't comment on the Action Extreme 16x but, Doug was adiment in saying that the Minox were superior to the newer Nikon Monarch 5 16x56.

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At least I think its Monarch 5? Nikon needs to quit with all the Monarch variants!

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I'm very tempted to try them. I don't know how often the open box price is available.
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Old Tuesday 25th March 2014, 17:38   #11
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I'm actually waiting to see the Zeiss Conquest HDs and compare them to the new Swarovski SLC.

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Me too Bryce, would be a very interesting comparo.
If I can get my hands on these two I will do a proper review and post it.

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Old Wednesday 26th March 2014, 00:25   #12
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Me too Bryce, would be a very interesting comparo.
If I can get my hands on these two I will do a proper review and post it.

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That would be great Lee.

This isn't going to be a rush decision on my part.

Either way its going to be an investment, I will probably sell my Swaro 65 HD to fund the purchase.

In the mean time I have the Minox and I'm probably going to order the Vortex Vulture 15x56 that just came out.

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Bryce:

I have been following your 15x56 quest. Lots of changes in the past year
it seems.
Just a year or so ago, in reviews that I have followed, the top rated model was the Swaro. 15x56 SLC, then followed by the Vortex Kaibab 15x56, and next the Minox 15x58ED. I do own the 15x58ED Minox, and I am pleased with its performance, but it does not get a lot of use.

Now both Swaro. and Vortex have new models available, Vortex has their new
Kaibab HD, with a list of $1,299. And the new Vulture 15x56 HD @ $499.
Zeiss has a new Conquest available so things are growing in the 15x56 ranks.

Doug at CL is clearing out the previous Kaibab at a discount price, $899, and I am thinking it would have more performance than the other 2 you have now mentioned as
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Let us know how they work for you.

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The new replacement for these on Optics Planet seems to be identical other than not specifying Made In Germany.


http://www.opticsplanet.com/minox-bl...n-germany.html

http://www.opticsplanet.com/minox-bl...binocular.html
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I notice that the Vulture has ED glass.


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In the mean time I have the Minox and I'm probably going to order the Vortex Vulture 15x56 that just came out.

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Bryce:

I have been following your 15x56 quest. Lots of changes in the past year
it seems.
Just a year or so ago, in reviews that I have followed, the top rated model was the Swaro. 15x56 SLC, then followed by the Vortex Kaibab 15x56, and next the Minox 15x58ED. I do own the 15x58ED Minox, and I am pleased with its performance, but it does not get a lot of use.

Now both Swaro. and Vortex have new models available, Vortex has their new
Kaibab HD, with a list of $1,299. And the new Vulture 15x56 HD @ $499.
Zeiss has a new Conquest available so things are growing in the 15x56 ranks.

Doug at CL is clearing out the previous Kaibab at a discount price, $899, and I am thinking it would have more performance than the other 2 you have now mentioned as
owning.

Let us know how they work for you.

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Jerry, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize they were going to clear them out so rapidly, the new model with updated coatings was recently released so I figured pricing was going to stay consistent with that model.

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The new replacement for these on Optics Planet seems to be identical other than not specifying Made In Germany.


http://www.opticsplanet.com/minox-bl...n-germany.html

http://www.opticsplanet.com/minox-bl...binocular.html
That's a typo on the picture, they are showing the same binocular which is the most recent release.

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I notice that the Vulture has ED glass.
Yes, but what grade of glass?

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Since they offer two models above them it makes you wonder.

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Yes, but what grade of glass?

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The model with MPN 62045 makes no mention of being made in Germany. The model with MPN 62044 specifies Made in Germany. They seem to be the same binocular, so maybe the new 62045 is being made in China ? I'll call Minox when I can and see what the difference is.

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The CA control is equal to the 15X58 ED? I wonder how they pull that off.

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I have model#62045 it states made in Germany? I questioned that statement earlier in regards to the price.

There is a older made in China version listed here in the classifieds.

Its pretty obvious externally the differences.

As to the control of CA?

My guess is its the coatings they are applying.

They have change them according to the brochure and the website.

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I just did a search about the Minox models that are mentioned here.

Piergiovanni at Binomania has a very nice comparison review of these
2 models on his website, I will not provide a link, as it needs a translation.
It is easily found from his website, with a Minox search.
He is a very good reviewer, and I agree with his findings with any of the optics
I have enjoyed.

The main things he mentions in his comparison was the advantage of the
15x56BR is lighter and better in ergos. 1,165 g. weight vs. 1,578 g.

Otherwise the 15x58ED is better in better color rendering, both center and
edge, a more correct field of view and superior contrast by about 20%. He
also mentions less CA in the 15x58.

In summation, Minox lightened up the 15x56 a lot, but did sacrifice the view.

For most using a 15X binocular, a tripod mount is necessary to enjoy the advantages
of this size.

He now has possession of the new Swaro. 15x56 and the Zeiss Conquest 15x56.
He seems to get a first look among reviewers.

For the optics guys on here, you may want to spend some time on his site and enjoy the well done reviews.

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Yes, Jerry I have read that many times. I had the 15x58ed that you have.

This new binocular is not the same as the one used in that review.

Although I haven't used the older 15x56 I would venture to say these are better.

You yourself have quoted in the Nikon and Swaro forums that the differences between identical bins
With updated coatings are better!

I know the upper tier bins without even looking are going to be better.

Don't be to quick to voice your opinion on a binocular that you haven't tried or read a review on.

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Bryce:

I did not know that Minox has updated the 15x56 model.

The review that I have referred to is the older model from 2012.

Sorry about that, I am sure there are improvements with the newer one,
as that is expected.

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The older version was assembled, or possibly made in China.

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I did not know that Minox has updated the 15x56 model.

The review that I have referred to is the older model from 2012.

Sorry about that, I am sure there are improvements with the newer one,
as that is expected.

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