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Old Tuesday 4th November 2014, 17:53   #51
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What about the weight? What was the first impact? Easily hand-holdable?
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Old Tuesday 4th November 2014, 18:46   #52
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It feels lighter and better balanced than the Sigma 120-300mm OS and 2x tc I used in the past.
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Old Wednesday 5th November 2014, 16:36   #53
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But I am interested in adding a better quality (ie heavier) lens for hide use etc. My thoughts are to try the new Sigma Sports 150-600, or else buy a second-hand Canon 600mm f4 IS Mk1.
If the weight/price of the 600/4 IS MkI is no problem for you Nick I would take that in a heartbeat over any third party zoom lens - no comparison IMHO.
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Old Wednesday 5th November 2014, 21:08   #54
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If the weight/price of the 600/4 IS MkI is no problem for you Nick I would take that in a heartbeat over any third party zoom lens - no comparison IMHO.
Ditto, and I would take third party out and just leave zoom lens.
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Old Thursday 6th November 2014, 10:58   #55
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Ditto, and I would take third party out and just leave zoom lens.
I was a little hesitant to say that as I quite fancy a Canon 200-400/560 but I take your point as I am a big prime fan although zooms are getting a bit better these days.
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Old Thursday 6th November 2014, 20:51   #56
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A couple of quick shots at 840mm f9 (open wide)
AF is more than usable for static subjects. Will try it on moving ones asap.

These are full resolution, just download them

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ynoc0vvovnonhnk/840mm%201.jpg
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Old Friday 7th November 2014, 06:44   #57
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A couple of quick shots at 840mm f9 (open wide)
AF is more than usable for static subjects. Will try it on moving ones asap.

These are full resolution, just download them

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ynoc0vvovnonhnk/840mm%201.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/owqticvrnas9d04/840mm%202.jpg
They look fairly good - if it turns out the that the lens performs well with a 1.4x tc then that will be a real bonus for anyone that is reach limited (1344mm FOV on the 7D2).
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Old Sunday 9th November 2014, 15:08   #58
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Finally some sunlight. A few shots with the Sigma (with and without the teleconverter).
These are not resized, just cropped:

Sigma 150-600 D810 f6.3 ISO400
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3%20ISO400.JPG

Sigma 150-600 D810 f6.3 ISO400 B
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ISO400%20B.JPG

Sigma 150-600 at 850mm D810 f11 ISO400
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...1%20ISO400.JPG

Sigma 150-600 at 850mm D810 f11 ISO1600
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...%20ISO1600.JPG
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Old Sunday 9th November 2014, 18:35   #59
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Finally some sunlight. A few shots with the Sigma (with and without the teleconverter).
These are not resized, just cropped:

Sigma 150-600 D810 f6.3 ISO400
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...3%20ISO400.JPG

Sigma 150-600 D810 f6.3 ISO400 B
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ISO400%20B.JPG

Sigma 150-600 at 850mm D810 f11 ISO400
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...1%20ISO400.JPG

Sigma 150-600 at 850mm D810 f11 ISO1600
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...%20ISO1600.JPG
They are looking good a step up from the Tamron I would say, especially the bokeh which looks a lot nicer to me. It also looks as if the it takes the tc very well with some nice fine detail.
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They are looking good a step up from the Tamron I would say, especially the bokeh which looks a lot nicer to me. It also looks as if the it takes the tc very well with some nice fine detail.
Yes, in my opinion the combination of sharpness, CA and contrast of the Sigma at 6.3 is very close to Tamron at f8 and also the bokeh is less busy.
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This is a nice comparison.

TOP: Sigma 150-600 at 850mm D810 f11 ISO1600
BOTTOM: Tamron 150-600 D7100 f8 ISO800

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...%20ISO1600.JPG

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And 2 more:

TOP: Sigma 150-600 at 850mm D810 f11 ISO400
BOTTOM: Tamron 150-600 D7100 f11 ISO400

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I managed to have a hold and play about with the 150-600 and the 120-300 in Preston today, my god they are built well. The 120-300 felt the better balance mainly due to the zoom not extending. I think for me now I will wait for the stock supply to catch up and hopefully the price will drop a bit.
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Those shots look impressive, do you hand hold or what support did you use?
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I'm wondering if I can use my current MKII converter with the Canon, or will I have to buy a Sigma Converter?
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Old Sunday 9th November 2014, 20:23   #66
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Those shots look impressive, do you hand hold or what support did you use?
Thank you, all were handheld
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I'm wondering if I can use my current MKII converter with the Canon, or will I have to buy a Sigma Converter?
Based on previous experience probably not as it will not fool the camera in thinking that the aperture is f8 and not f9.

BTW I forgot to mention that the new Sigma TC-1401 is the only TC that worked with the Tamron 150-600mm and allowed it to achieve AF on my Nikon D810 and D7100.

I tried the Nikon 1.4x (modified to fit any lens), Sigma 1.4x DG, Kenko 1.4x DG and Kenko 1.4x DGX. None worked with the Tamron at all.
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Based on previous experience probably not as it will not fool the camera in thinking that the aperture is f8 and not f9.

BTW I forgot to mention that the new Sigma TC-1401 is the only TC that worked with the Tamron 150-600mm and allowed it to achieve AF on my Nikon D810 and D7100.

I tried the Nikon 1.4x (modified to fit any lens), Sigma 1.4x DG, Kenko 1.4x DG and Kenko 1.4x DGX. None worked with the Tamron at all.
But how about using a tc with the Sigma 150-600 (not the Tammy) I am guessing that you would need the siggy tc to make sure it reports f8.
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But how about using a tc with the Sigma 150-600 (not the Tammy) I am guessing that you would need the siggy tc to make sure it reports f8.
Will try the two Kenko's that sometimes fool the camera and will let you know.
It does not work with the first version of the Sigma 1.4x
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I am afraid that neither the Kenko DG or DGX work. Even though both seem to fool the camera and it tries to AF, the autofocus is erratic
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I'm not up with Nikon cameras, do they AF at f8 and still no joy with the kenko? If that's the case should you need to add a TC the sigma 1401 is the only option.
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The new Sigma tc seems to be the only option I am afraid for Nikon. Canon might be a different story.
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And 2 more:

TOP: Sigma 150-600 at 850mm D810 f11 ISO400
BOTTOM: Tamron 150-600 D7100 f11 ISO400

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Hi Micloi

Could you possibly provide us some samples of both the Sigma vs Tamron on the D7100 with and without the TC.
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Happy to do that next time the weather allows (and I am not at work)
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had a chance to play with the Tammy last weekend and I dont think I would want to handle another two pounds. The Tammy is all I want to use hand held.
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