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Old Tuesday 9th September 2014, 21:31   #1
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Zeiss 65 Diascope

Recently I went to the Birdfair at Rutland and tested out quite a few of the scopes. I have an old Hawke 60mm ED Endurance and although its perfectly fine and gives excellent views , its just a bit heavy and not too good at high magnification. So having been impressed with the Zeiss at the Birdfair I went ahead and bought one. I have to say its a great scope but I am a little disappointed . Is it really 1300 better than my old Hawke, side by side at 20x I honestly cant see much difference , the eye relief is better but the brightness and sharpness are hard to separate. It wins hands down at high magnification but I just feel its not as impressive as I remembered at Rutland. And I do I think its worth 4x my old Hawke . Honestly no.
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Old Tuesday 9th September 2014, 21:44   #2
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The detail at high magnification is exactly the reason why I want the diascope, I know it's gonna cost loads but having that extra bit of oompf on a distant bird is worth it.
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Old Tuesday 9th September 2014, 22:11   #3
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The detail at high magnification is exactly the reason why I want the diascope, I know it's gonna cost loads but having that extra bit of oompf on a distant bird is worth it.
Currently using Opticron ES80 with SDL eyepiece.
I agree Keith and thats what impressed me at the Birdfair. They set up little targets out on the scrape and you could read every number at 50x . Its also about half the weight of my Hawke which is another great asset, I 'm just trying not to look at my bank balance too much I guess.
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Old Wednesday 10th September 2014, 21:34   #4
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if the transmission of the hawke-scope is same as in their endurance II binos
transmission is 30% higher in the zeiss scope,
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the binos have 58% transmission...
http://www.allbinos.com/119-binocula..._II_10x42.html

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Old Wednesday 29th October 2014, 22:38   #5
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It wins hands down at high magnification
Isn't that why you bought it Let's face it, that's why any of us buy a 'scope. If the birds would stay where they are till we could get a couple of metres away we'd not bother.

At 20x the difference doesn't matter. Flat out it does. Not toting the extra weight around is also nice...
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