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Old Tuesday 9th February 2016, 18:38   #26
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A better photo of the mount here, post 337:
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"Laying on the ground....", you mean, MUD!

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Old Wednesday 10th February 2016, 08:18   #28
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A better photo of the mount here, post 337:
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Thanks Jules,
I tried that method but without success. The clamps are not possible to tighten enough to get what feels like a secure assembly, the screws are slipping. Maybe poor quality?
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Old Wednesday 10th February 2016, 08:38   #29
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the cnc-rings replacement is just my old Celestron clamps/rings that I fitted a DIY dovetail rail. They are not as heavy as the cnc-rings, but not lightweight either. I had them, so I it's a quick fix at the moment. Won't do anything more permanent until I get my flocking material.

Regarding the belly boat - are you planning to sit on it, as fishers do?
Yes that's the idea. I do quite a lot of flyfishing and already have waders, belly-boat, flippers and PFD. Belly-boats are very useful to explore small and medium still waters.

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It's doable, but you loose the low level point of view. But on the other hand it gets you out there, if it's this or nothing.
My thought was to mount the gimbal or ball head more or less directly on the platform, not at eye level as on the photo you shared. I would have to operate the camera with the LCD tilted, I have done some low-perspective photos this way, placing the scope near ground on a bean-bag (or reversing the tripod pillar), myself sitting on ground/crouching. The ergonomy depends on the relief distance from eye to LCD, have to assess what it will be in the belly-boat before committing the project. One issue though will be launching and landing without support from an assistant since you need to remove the platform to get in/out.
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Old Wednesday 10th February 2016, 09:55   #30
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This has held tight as a drum from the beginning. There is, however, a big difference between good and cheap clamps. Don't skimp.
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Thanks Jules,
I tried that method but without success. The clamps are not possible to tighten enough to get what feels like a secure assembly, the screws are slipping. Maybe poor quality?
I've used those clamps for all sorts of chores and never had a problem. They are very tight on my scope and I never had to retighten. Try a different supplier.
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today was the day

too windy and big waves (for manual focus). But all in all it went well. Some minor tweeks are needed. Very few birds around, so I had only a coot, and two great crested grebe (Podiceps cristatus) but they went further away though.

it was cold, but manageble, and scope/camera did not get wet spite the waves
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too windy and big waves (for manual focus). But all in all it went well. Some minor tweeks are needed. Very few birds around, so I had only a coot, and two great crested grebe (Podiceps cristatus) but they went further away though.

it was cold, but manageble, and scope/camera did not get wet spite the waves

It seems to work great. Good for you ! I love the Grebe.
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too windy and big waves (for manual focus). But all in all it went well. Some minor tweeks are needed. Very few birds around, so I had only a coot, and two great crested grebe (Podiceps cristatus) but they went further away though.

it was cold, but manageble, and scope/camera did not get wet spite the waves
The results created by the eye level perspective look great.
Did you use a rain cover to mitigate the spash created by wind/waves?
Do you happen to have a photo showing what the setup looks like when operated?
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Old Tuesday 29th March 2016, 11:51   #35
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the setup is as in the first pics http://www.birdforum.net/attachment....8&d=1454668788

with the 480 apo. And no, no cover more than what you see in the photo here. The hood all out, very wavy, but no splashing (or none that caused problems, that is) . However, I had the scope/camera pointed down a few times, fearing it got wet, but it didn't.

Must find a way to move myself forward when not touching the bottom... :-)
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the setup is as in the first pics http://www.birdforum.net/attachment....8&d=1454668788

with the 480 apo. And no, no cover more than what you see in the photo here. The hood all out, very wavy, but no splashing (or none that caused problems, that is) . However, I had the scope/camera pointed down a few times, fearing it got wet, but it didn't.

Must find a way to move myself forward when not touching the bottom... :-)
I guess you used a dry suit? Flippers will not be much useful since the natural way is to propel in reverse. And walking on bottom with flippers is a nightmare. The risk of front/back tilting the scope/camera into wet element could be almost eliminated by adding spacers that prevent this from happening. However exposing the setup to heavy splashes from waves would not be a good thing. I once had my TLAPO exposed to a short but heavy shower on Sri Lanka and it did not take long for water to start to condense between the elements. I was devastated. The cure was to expose the scope to heat, in my case pointing the scope towards the intense tropical sun. It took a full day for the condensation to evaporate.
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I guess you used a dry suit? ............ It took a full day for the condensation to evaporate.
yes, dry suit. not really possible without it. Not here.

did not know condensation could get between the elements. And on a trip, that's frightening stuff ;-)
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2nd time

Had the opportunity to train some more on a calmer lake.

all taken with the TS 480 apo and the e-m5 mk1

air temp in the morning was -1... water temp at least warmer.
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#3 and #5 are really nice. Love the low angle.
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#3 and #5 are really nice. Love the low angle.
Thanks Daniel.
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Looking good Carlos! Keep working at it. My favorite photos of ducks and water birds are usually from a very low angle perspective. That's why someday I see myself following in your footsteps with the Mr. Jan or something similar.

My few experiences in photography blinds on land have sometimes been very cold... I learned the hard way to bring chemically activated hand warmers like "Hot Hands," or now I also also have the "Energy Flux Rechargable Hand Warmer." I can imagine it might also be a problem in freezing cold water. I wonder if I could put some warmers inside the dry suit next to my feet?

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Here's a photo of a Greater Prairie Chicken from perhaps my coldest photography session ever. This was 2 years ago late March, in a photography blind in central Nebraska. I had been sitting still in there for over an hour fighting the cold. This was just moments after the sun came up so the light is quite warm, but note the frosty ground. I don't know how cold it was, but I remember even with help from the chemical hand-warmers, my fingers were so numb that I struggled to operate the camera buttons.

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That shot was worth the frost bite!
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absolutedly! a couple of fingers worth ;-)
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Nice photos guys. You should come to Quebec for cold weather bird photography. I don't remember the exact temperature for those 2 photos, but I remember it was extremely cold for both outings. For me, extremely cold is at least MINUS 25 C.

The first one is a Great Grey Owl and the second one is a Snowy Old. I never use live baits. For the GGO, I waited patiently behind a bush for about 1 hour. I approached the Snowy Owl on snowshoes: 3 slow steps, take a photo, wait 1 minute without moving, repeat until the bird decides it is enough... Both taken with a Canon 100-400mm.
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Thanks Dan. They should be there now.
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I think you will win the prize for the coldest bird photography, Jules! Nice owl photos. Great Grey Owls are very uncommon and local in a few parts of the Sierra Nevada but I have still never seen one. I have seen Snowy Owls a few times during the wintertime when they roam south, but my only chances to photograph them have not been wonderful. Your Snowy Owl photo benefits from the side-lighting. I think that would help when photographing a white bird on a white background! :) Good job.
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I think you will win the prize for the coldest bird photography, Jules! Nice owl photos. Great Grey Owls are very uncommon and local in a few parts of the Sierra Nevada but I have still never seen one. I have seen Snowy Owls a few times during the wintertime when they roam south, but my only chances to photograph them have not been wonderful. Your Snowy Owl photo benefits from the side-lighting. I think that would help when photographing a white bird on a white background! :) Good job.
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Thanks for your comments Dave. GGOs are quite rare in Quebec and we don't see them every winter. The Snowy Owls are a bit more common and quite plentiful some winters. The GGOs are quite easy to photograph because they don't seem to be afraid of humans while the SOs like to keep their distances.
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Nice Owls. I'm afraid we have hijacked Carlos thread...
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