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Siberian chiffchaff? (1 Viewer)
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FaroeRagnar
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Yes. Nice frosty-looking bird with the only green existing in the primaries, secondaries and tail. Also the chin seems tobaccocolored/reddish colored which also fitts ssp. tristis if I recall correctly
robbie_d_e
Well-known member
Thanks for the reply.
phil baber
Clipped Wing
Ticks all my boxes too Robbie. Surely there's enough to go on on plumage/structure now without the call, if photos are as good as these?! Sorry to bring it up again, but, in the days when committees were clueless, they needed the call as the final clincher. The plumage features, as a suite of identifiers, are so marked on these birds! They almost look like Bonelli's with an eye-stripe! But, I guess this will go on until the 22nd Century. If I had my way, I'd go Sibe Chiff now on these images... :C
ps Sibe Chiff for me, any day. :t: Then, 2 years ago, I was picking out Iberian Chiffs in March, from gangs of Commons in the Algarve. It was only occasionally I heard them call, after i'd spent time grilling them. Yes, calls are important. But, when so many other features are a real help? I despair sometimes!
Lovely photos BTW! B
ps Sibe Chiff for me, any day. :t: Then, 2 years ago, I was picking out Iberian Chiffs in March, from gangs of Commons in the Algarve. It was only occasionally I heard them call, after i'd spent time grilling them. Yes, calls are important. But, when so many other features are a real help? I despair sometimes!
Lovely photos BTW! B
robbie_d_e
Well-known member
After seeing someone saying that the sibes gave a bullfinch like call, I realised that when I first found it, there was a what I thought a bullfinch calling but no sign of a bullfinch.This would explain it!! The pictures were taken by my mate Elfyn Lewis, the guy that found the Bardsey Cretzschmar's bunting. He is the one I called when I found it. Here is another of his pictures.
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Nutcracker
Stop Brexit!
What colour is that?? Like many people these days, I will have nothing to do with this disgusting poison-gas-generating abomination
KenM
Well-known member
Yes, calls are important. But, when so many other features are a real help? I despair sometimes!
I couldn't agree more Phil.....:t:
Nutcracker
Stop Brexit!
Isn't the problem that some give the calls typical of one combined with the plumage of the other (and vice-versa)? So which is it that gives the taxon's self-identity? Before deciding to pair up, do they look at each other closely to check if they've got the right mate, or listen to each other?
phil baber
Clipped Wing
Owen vs. Darwin? Obviously, if a species needed to identify each other, only by call? They would evolve hare-like ears, with the complete absence of eyes. Instead, we have a species, in a rather sharp-looking whistle, who only plays its MP3s now & again, to flesh out its "visually voluptuous vampishness..." I'm Charlie Darwin btw. Your call and song stuff is mere frippery. The "eyes" have it! Mr. Owen!
PS On visuals? Looks very much 100% Sibe Chiff to me. But, without call? Oh dear! :news:
PS On visuals? Looks very much 100% Sibe Chiff to me. But, without call? Oh dear! :news: