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Old Thursday 14th July 2016, 15:44   #1
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Nikon Monarch Fieldscopes

http://www.nikon.com/news/2016/0714_...ldscope_02.htm

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Old Thursday 14th July 2016, 20:05   #2
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Good to see Nikon back in the game, and that they've resurrected the Fieldscopes with presumably better zoom eyepieces. Wish the eye-relief spec were better than given in the announcement. I wonder how different these are from the Fieldscope III series. It seems the modular design (similar to that of Swarovski) that was described in the original retracted Monarch announcement of a year or two ago is no more. Hope we see these manufactured.

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Old Thursday 14th July 2016, 20:21   #3
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Good news and bad news there. Good news is a widefield zoom eyepiece and the return to Nikon's offset Schmidt prism. Bad news is the lack of 75x capability.
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Old Thursday 14th July 2016, 22:08   #4
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Holy Cow!
2 year to late...or more.
no modular stuff, but otherwise it seem to be the same specs.
Don't understand why they do two different EP:s.
A single 25-60x or even higher would have been better as pointed out.
Also a fixed 24x/30x would have been better.
Doesn't make me jump really.
But I guess it will be a very good midrange scope
at a decent price.

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Old Thursday 14th July 2016, 22:58   #5
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They look a lot like the Fieldscope series, same style center focuser, etc.

I see they have a Type 1 bayonet mount. Is that similar to a SLR camera lens mount?

It is good to see some new products from Nikon.

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larger photos of EP:s here

http://www.nikon.com/products/sporto...-mep/index.htm

And PDF:s here on both the new scopes and bins:

http://www.nikon.com/products/sporto...p/dl/index.htm

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Bad news also with the loss of what seemed the 1.25" astro standard for the eyepieces... I was waiting for the wide zoom, before the previous cancel, but now already purchased a Baader zoom. The advertised eye-relief for the wide zoom also seems short. Will see what future users think about it...
Yes, a 2.5x factor zoom as the Kowa would be more appealing.
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Another nice feature mentioned in the brochure, but not the press release, is a variable speed focuser, faster up close and slower at longer distances.
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Bad news also with the loss of what seemed the 1.25" astro standard for the eyepieces... I was waiting for the wide zoom, before the previous cancel, but now already purchased a Baader zoom. The advertised eye-relief for the wide zoom also seems short. Will see what future users think about it...
Yes, a 2.5x factor zoom as the Kowa would be more appealing.
Yes, 1.25'' seems to be dropped,
Would there be any optical/technical reasons for that? Any limitations? Size or weight?
Or is it a commercial decision, forcing people in buying proprietary EP:s?

The later feels a bit stupid, most people would probably select the Nikon EP:S any way. But people who already own astro EP:s might want to buy the scope.
So perhaps loosing customers instead.
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Old Friday 15th July 2016, 19:04   #10
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Would be nice if the wider angle zoom would work on the previous Fieldscopes; especially since they dropped the 1.25 plans. Would have been nice to put the newer zoom on my Fieldscope.

Other than that, cannot see anything here that would make me want to change from my 82 and 50 Fieldscopes with my zoom and fixed EP. I have good samples of both and would be surprised if the new scope bettered them in the areas of importance to me- sharpness, color, etc.
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Would be nice if the wider angle zoom would work on the previous Fieldscopes; especially since they dropped the 1.25 plans. Would have been nice to put the newer zoom on my Fieldscope.

Other than that, cannot see anything here that would make me want to change from my 82 and 50 Fieldscopes with my zoom and fixed EP. I have good samples of both and would be surprised if the new scope bettered them in the areas of importance to me- sharpness, color, etc.
The new Zooms have a much wider mount, might complicate things.
Astro zooms would be possible on the new scope with an adaptor perhaps?
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Anyone already looked though one of these?
How is the wide zoom?
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Hi,
Has any one of you able to review the Scope. I am evaluating this in compare to Vortex Razor 65 mm scope. Any advise?
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I hope that at least an adapter for mounting the older Fieldscope eyepieces will be available in a future...
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No replacement for the ED50. It was brought out in 2005 I believe. Wonder if they are working on it or not.
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How is the wide zoom?
Not in stock anywhere around here or even at the national nikon online store.
Seems like the demand for a new nikon scope is just about zero here.
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Not in stock anywhere around here or even at the national nikon online store.
Seems like the demand for a new nikon scope is just about zero here.
Rather sad.
Nikon had a solid franchise at the upper end of sport optics, both in scopes as well as in binoculars. They now seem to be retreating to the mid tier and below, after the failure of the EDG scopes. Given Chinese competition, that seems a risky strategy. Perhaps the pressures in the camera market are impacting the firm's ability to support the sport optics sector.
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Hi from Italy. Today Binomania Team has organized a small meeting to have a first impression of Nikon Monarch HG spotting scopes. Nikon Italy will send to a my collaborator a specimen for a digiscoping test.
You can find other images here: http://www.binomania.it/pranzo_8-settembre_monarch_hg/
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Anyone already looked though one of these?
How is the wide zoom?
We received a straight 82mm for review last week. (Un)fortunately, we sold our last Vortex Razor 85mm the day before, so could not do a direct comparison. New version of the Razor shipped to us today, so we will be able to do a comparison when it arrives.

We did a comparison with the Alpen Rainier 25-75x86, and the Monarch FS won handily. We used a resolution chart and Kodak color separation guide to do comparisons. The Monarch was crisper, brighter, and had less CA and better contrast. The different speeds for far and near focusing seem useful, but field testing will help determine to what extent.

The downside is that Nikon hasn't learned that people who want to digiscope with their Canon or M43 cameras will have to go elsewhere for third party adapters.
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We got in the new Vortex Razor 85 and a Zeiss Conquest Gavia. Surprisingly, the Monarch tested out better than the competition. As with the Alpen, the Monarch won sharpness, contrast and low CA. Still nowhere near the Kowa 880s and Swaro ATX/STX, but a solid scope for $1600. I'll be showing all 3 at the Sea & Sage Audubon Pancake Breakfast in Orange Co. CA tomorrow morning. If you're in the area, stop by and have a look.
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Any users?
How is the wide zoom for eye-glass users?
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How is the wide zoom for eye-glass users?
I had a quick look through the Monarch Fieldscope with the 30-60x WA EP.
It looked pretty OK at 30x and ER was acceptable with glasses,
but I was not very impressed at higher mag.
I also looked at the Zeiss Gavia, honestly not my cup of tea either, as the quality feel was not very overwhelming.
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I had a quick look through the Monarch Fieldscope with the 30-60x WA EP.
It looked pretty OK at 30x and ER was acceptable with glasses,
but I was not very impressed at higher mag.
I also looked at the Zeiss Gavia, honestly not my cup of tea either, as the quality feel was not very overwhelming.
In what ways did you find it deficient or unimpressive? Is it as least as good as the previous generation (except not supporting magnifications above 60x ?), or was it somehow not as good.

How about the focus efficiency and precision? If I remember correctly, it was originally going to be variable ratio.

Is an adapter available to use it with previous fieldscope eyepieces (including those that go to 75x)?

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In what ways did you find it deficient or unimpressive? Is it as least as good as the previous generation (except not supporting magnifications above 60x ?), or was it somehow not as good.

How about the focus efficiency and precision? If I remember correctly, it was originally going to be variable ratio.

Is an adapter available to use it with previous fieldscope eyepieces (including those that go to 75x)?

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The ocular lens is of larger diameter than the previous zooms, and ER is better. The outer diameter of the zoom is huge also, similar to ATX i suspect.
The focus mechanism felt nice and solid. The finishing seemed better than the Gavia that have a more plastic feel to it, but the Gavia is also lighter (suspect some plastic in the gavia).

I can't quantify the IQ really after so short time of usage, but my general impression was sub-alpha. Comparing with Swaro ATS, ATX and Kowa 883/773. But I'm quite picky though. The FOV is also a bit smaller than competition and I'm not that fond of 30-60x zooms. Prefer a larger FOV at 20 or 25x.

I don't know about any adaptor, but I guess nikon wants to sell new gear...

I will check out the scope a bit more next time I go to the store. Perhaps this week.

Here is a positive one:

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I will check out the scope a bit more next time I go to the store. Perhaps this week.

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If you still didn't went to the store, I ask you to see the diameter of the scope side of the eyepiece, to see if is smaller to the standard 1.25" astro - if it is, it's easier to make an adapter that will allow reaching focus on scopes that allow the use of 1.25" eps. Other wide AFOV zooms have long bayonets, larger that 1.25" diameter (usually with lens larger than 1.25"), which makes them impossible to reach focus on other spotting scopes. Thats the reason why I dont have a Leica zoom for my Optolyth 100...
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