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Old Friday 16th September 2016, 05:59   #1
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New Panasonic G80 or 85 ?

A few new cameras at the moment,i like the look of this one.


16.0MP 4/3 type Live MOS sensor
A low-pass filter-less
The body 5-axis camera shake correction
Incorporating the new gyro-sensor technology “Dual IS MK II”
Up to five stages of the anti-shake effect
DFD technology
Dust and water, magnesium body
Video: 4K30p, FullHD60p
ISO Sensitivity: 200-25600
Continuous shooting: up to 9 frames / sec.
EVF: 236 Man 1.48 times dot OLED (35mm equivalent 0.74 times)
The rear monitor: 3-inch 1.04 million dot, Free Angle
Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card
5-axis camera shake correction is also available in 4K video
New shutter unit with reduced noise reduction by 90% vibration compared to G7
Smartphone can be connected via Wi-fi
Approximately 10% of the resolution by the low-pass less of the sensor improvement
Contrast AF is further faster, more accurately
Selectable focus select function the focus position from later
The front of the frame is full magnetic shim die-cast
Adopted grip a thick, designed in terms of ergonomics
Time lag of the EVF is less than 0.01 seconds, 10000: 1 high contrast
Eye point of the finder is 20mm

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-im...panasonic-g80/
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The supposedly full press release text has been leaked: http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-full-gx8...s-text-leaked/

What I am most curious about is the capabilities of AF, if this will be great of if the GH5 will be far ahead (but much later to arrive).

I am also curious about the naming. They give the two digit number to this one (which should indicate a slightly less capable model than a single digit number). Will there be a single digit G model, or is the single digit reserved for the GH?

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Old Monday 19th September 2016, 19:34   #3
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http://www.photobyrichard.com/review...g85g80-review/ just to mention one.

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The supposedly full press release text has been leaked: http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-full-gx8...s-text-leaked/

What I am most curious about is the capabilities of AF, if this will be great of if the GH5 will be far ahead (but much later to arrive).

I am also curious about the naming. They give the two digit number to this one (which should indicate a slightly less capable model than a single digit number). Will there be a single digit G model, or is the single digit reserved for the GH?

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This naming convention is new for them (or a copy of Canikon), so for me clearly the new "single digit" G will be the GH5, and so they now have the lines :

- Top DSLR style line : GH single digit (if they don't remove the H)
- "entry" DSLR style line : G double digit
- Top rangefinder line : GX single digit
- "entry" range finder line : GX double digit

Plus the GM GF lines if they keep them ...

I also wonder about the AF, hoping to get reviews soon, to decide to replace my G6 with it or not.
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Kind of a round up of what is known until now: http://www.43rumors.com/a-closer-loo...or-g81-or-g85/

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Very favorable review of the G80/85 on DP Review (84% Gold award):

"In terms of performance, ergonomics and capability, the Panasonic G85 is the camera I will be recommending to enthusiasts for the foreseeable future. Here is why: It is the most compelling and complete Panasonic camera on the market (until the GH5). I said this when I first reviewed the rangefinder-style GX85 (a very similar camera), but the G85 takes everything a step forward."

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pan...-dmc-g85-g80/8

And it lists for $1100 less than the EM-1 mk II!
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Thanks for sharing this! To me it will all come down to AF performance with a long lens which camera I end up with.

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Must admit its moving up the list as my second camera,for a short while i dreamt of a EM1 MK11,or a EM1 but i think having Panasonic lenses it may well be better for me to stick with there focus system.
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from http://www.imaging-resource.com/news...siast-cameras:
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Camera of the Year, Best Enthusiast Mirrorless: Panasonic G85
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For birding, what lens would you pair with this body?
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Lower cost and quality the 100-300, higher cost, quality and reach, the 100-400. If you know you want ultimate quality but don't care for zoom, the Oly 300 pro.

Photos with the 100-300 used with an older camera in my gallery here at BF: http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/sho...00/ppuser/7427

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Lower cost and quality the 100-300, higher cost, quality and reach, the 100-400. If you know you want ultimate quality but don't care for zoom, the Oly 300 pro.

Photos with the 100-300 used with an older camera in my gallery here at BF: http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/sho...00/ppuser/7427

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Just got the G80 on loan for a few days,naturally the weather is rubbish,did get out on the front and took cars going past at 25/30mph,the focusing looks great doing cars,coming towards me or going away.
Hopefully i will get out birding in the next few days if so i will report back and upload a few images with the 100-400.
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Looking forward to that Mike

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Wow what a camera,i will post more images and a few thoughts but here are three for now,not able to get subjects of interest to bird watchers so i took what i could.

G80 100-400
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Its early days yet but for me the G80 handles better,600 shots and I didnt catch a button on the back and change a setting once (I think this happens to me because of the way I have to hold the GX8 while zooming the 100-400).T he buttons on the back are not as prominent this could help me though some may find it a fiddle to press them.

After all the years with DSLRs the G80 does feel more natural with the EVF in the middle and more usable in fast moving situations.

The EVF is not as large a view as the GX8 but I bet I will forget this unless I use a GX8 again,it doesn't tilt this I will miss.

EVF refresh rate is as far as I can see the same but have not tried them side by side.

Image IQ is in my opinion better on the G80 but you do lose pixels for cropping,and I guess I could have had some SS situations with the GX8 the G80 shutter is very quiet

AFC looks to be better on the G80,i know it shouldn't be but I can only say it as I see it,there is a setting for adjusting how fast the camera decides to refocus in AFC, 0 is standard and you have -2 and +2 I have set it on +2 for faster.

I like the separate card slot,a small thing but as you get older and lose some dexterity its just easier in a separate slot.




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Thats my first thoughts,i have not had chance to do many small birds in bushes or on sticks so its mainly testing for camera reaction speed,more samples though.
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Mike,
thanks for these thoughts. Are you far enough to where you can talk more about the usability of c-AF overall on this camera? Do you have a lot of out of focus shots in between or a high keeper rate, etc?

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thanks for these thoughts. Are you far enough to where you can talk more about the usability of c-AF overall on this camera? Do you have a lot of out of focus shots in between or a high keeper rate, etc?

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I can say at this point though more testing will occur when both the weather and i pick up a bit ime happy with what it does.
I will include a link to another forum where i posted 9 shots of a gull coming towards me,none have been missed out and the last one shows its OOF due to me as the focus point was in the center and the gull isnt.
Ignore the quality as i have not got the camera tweaked yet and the images should have been dumped
As we both know these things are not DSLRs but after showing the gull samples to an EM1 owner he thinks it easily matches the EM performance.

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As we both know these things are not DSLRs but after showing the gull samples to an EM1 owner he thinks it easily matches the EM performance.
EM1-1 or EM1-2?

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Think he meant the EM1-1 but these Panasonics are so good who knows
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Hello all,
I am getting closer to pulling the trigger, and for cost reasons I think this is the camera I will go with. It looks like it fits battery with my old GH2, yes! So for my question: is this an appropriate class of memory card for this camera? https://smile.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ext...HMPYFW032W8DRJ

Any place where this and the 100-400 can be had significantly cheaper than at amazon?

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I am getting closer to pulling the trigger, and for cost reasons I think this is the camera I will go with. It looks like it fits battery with my old GH2, yes! So for my question: is this an appropriate class of memory card for this camera? https://smile.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ext...HMPYFW032W8DRJ

Any place where this and the 100-400 can be had significantly cheaper than at amazon?

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Thats the card i use not had any slowing down,i haven't done 4k though,the main thing will be getting the camera set right for speed,did 8 shots of this yesterday.
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Just a thought but do you do 4k because thats one big card for stills,not sure i would like that many images on one card,i use 16gb cards and the camera says it can do 800 shots on that.
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Thanks Mike,
I have used the same 16gb card on my GH2 forever (when traveling emptying the card every night), so not really used to thinking about the card failing. I am also considering some 4k video, though I do not know how much upgrade my software would need to be able to do that.

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