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Old Monday 20th March 2017, 19:49   #1
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Kowa bd xd 12x56

Does anyone use these, possibly mounted on a tripod? I am looking to see if they will compare at all to swarovski el's of similar size. Very affordable, but not sure if i want to buy a set that i may not be happy with.
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Old Tuesday 21st March 2017, 03:20   #2
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I have recently been thinking of a 12x56 to be used handheld as well as mounted (as an alternative to a 15x) and looked into all 12x56 options. I do not now remember details but after extensive reading of reviews decided that the Barr-&-Stroud Savannah ED, which is $380 at B-&-H, is much better value for money, indeed even possibly (sorry I forget now) better in optical quality in some aspect/s, than the Kowa BD-XD, which is $720 at that retailer. Apparently the Prominar XD glass does not work well enough in this model to justify the extra cost. The B-&-S and the Kowa seem to be "clones" of a generic 12x56 model by Jaxy. Note that there is a Barr-&-Stroud Savannah non-ED 12x56 also. Previously I was so taken with B-&-S's Savannah ED 12x56, from what I read, that I bought their 10x56 model as possibly a better compromise but it was not sharp enough (at center field). I incline to think that this is an inherent difference in the two models rather than sample variation. If you do buy the B-&-S please tell us about it after a bit of use!
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Old Tuesday 21st March 2017, 04:01   #3
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To venture to answer your specific question without having used any of these models: No, it will not compare to the Swaro 12x50. Comparable to the Swaro and the Leica 12x50 at a much lower price, though higher than this Kowa, is the Meopta/Cabelas HD 12x50; the Cabelas version is $1200 right now at a sale at Cabelas. There is also the 12.5x50 by the new co. GPO but the model is yet to be reviewed.
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Old Tuesday 21st March 2017, 06:49   #4
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I've found the Kowa BD XD range to be rather a puzzle. As each successive model was launched I've initially found the levels of CA unacceptably high, but when I've checked them again a year or so later the levels were much improved. Just speculating, but maybe the specification of the Chinese glass wasn't up to scratch or something?

I did try the 12x56 and it was far too psychedelic for my tastes. That was two or three years ago, but unfortunately, I haven't tried it again, so I'm probably not much help.

I recently reviewed the Meopta Meostar HD 12x50 and I would certainly put that up against the Swaro any day. A lot more money though.

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Old Tuesday 21st March 2017, 07:33   #5
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Caleb cda, David: David kindly commented on the Kowa BD-XD 56s for me as above some time back. From what he said/says I allowed for the possibility that CA control is now improved. But then a more recent review, I forget by whom or in which forum, was pretty critical of the model in some aspect/s which may also still include CA control (sorry I forget).

Other 12x56s presently made, which are optically good to very good, include the direct-purchase (from China?) Jaxy item. Other 12x50s include the Celestron Granite, Leupold Pro-Guide, Opticron Countryman, Vortex Razor and Vortex Viper.
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Old Wednesday 22nd March 2017, 14:19   #6
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Tha ks everyone for your answers, i have done more research and with everything i have seen i will not be buying these.

It may be a little while tell i can pick up a set of really good binos, but i will keep doing my research and stay behind the 884.
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