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Old Wednesday 25th May 2005, 04:27   #1
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Swainson's Warbler/ Sibley?

Hi BF,

Looked at Sibley's Swainson's Warbler- I dont think the Swainson's really looks right in Sibley's book... At least the few I've seen don't look that light and clean. And yes I've heard it call and know it was a Swainson's.

Not that Sibley's illustration isn't wonderful, but the bird seems light and the cap on the bird looks really red. Is it a reproduction error in Sibley's Birds of NA?

Am I getting close?

Thank you for any comments,
Carlos
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Old Saturday 28th May 2005, 04:53   #2
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Remember, you are comparing your drawing to another interpretive drawing. I personally think you have captured a better visual description of the Swainson's, closer to what one would see in life. Keep in mind Sibley's are accurate drawings to
depict the identifying characteristics of a species, not ment to be a 'drawn photograph', so it makes no sense now to continue to compare yours with his....you know what the characteristics are, you see the birds in life and perhaps have taken photos... you now have created your own accurate rendition of the Swainson's Warbler.
Your drawing, thus far, is well executed.
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Old Saturday 28th May 2005, 21:26   #3
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Remember, you are comparing your drawing to another interpretive drawing. I personally think you have captured a better visual description of the Swainson's, closer to what one would see in life. Keep in mind Sibley's are accurate drawings to
depict the identifying characteristics of a species, not ment to be a 'drawn photograph', so it makes no sense now to continue to compare yours with his....you know what the characteristics are, you see the birds in life and perhaps have taken photos... you now have created your own accurate rendition of the Swainson's Warbler.
Your drawing, thus far, is well executed.
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Hi Shelley,

I was asking about a possible reprint error in Sibley's Guide NA Book that is all. I was also asking if others thought the bird I had drawn was close to the real life bird, maybe other regions had variations on the bird color. I believe color is a big part to identifying the bird.

I was not comparing myself to Sibley. Sibley is a master at what he does.

Carlos

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Old Sunday 29th May 2005, 00:54   #4
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Sibley's are accurate drawings to
depict the identifying characteristics of a species, not ment to be a 'drawn photograph'
But they are intended to depict how the bird looks and the importance that Sibley attaches to his illustrations is apparent from the corrections on his website:

http://www.sibleyguides.com/sibley_guide_other.htm.

I notice he doesn't express any dissatisfaction with his Swainson's Warbler. I've never seen the species, but I must admit that the impression I'd got from photos I've seen is that it's a duller bird, so I was interested to see Carlos's post.
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