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Old Monday 19th June 2017, 17:31   #1
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Hawkmoth caterpillar N Devon

Sadly the Caterpillar isn't in the photo! Sorry. But it is a small Willow tree that has had many of it's leaves pretty much completely eaten. I may of course be completely wrong (it won't be the first time!) but it certainly has a prodigious appetite, and looking up which Hawkmoths eat Willow, I came up with Lime. Anyone care to comment?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old Monday 19th June 2017, 21:04   #2
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Why do you think it's a Hawkmoth Jon if you haven't seen it?


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Old Tuesday 20th June 2017, 04:21   #3
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Without seeing it we can't assume it's a hawkmoth though Poplar Hawkmoth would feed on sallows as would Puss Moth and many other moth species.
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Old Tuesday 20th June 2017, 07:01   #4
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Just the amount it had eaten! There must have been at least a dozen of these small branches with most of the leaves decimated. Surely some big beast?!! However, I bow to anyone with the definitive answer (please)!
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Without seeing it we can't assume it's a hawkmoth though Poplar Hawkmoth would feed on sallows as would Puss Moth and many other moth species.
I'll have another look today - it's in my daughter's garden - to see if it has continued the assault.

Thanks for the pointers though.
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Old Tuesday 20th June 2017, 12:16   #6
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Perhaps even Willow Sawfly. It looks more like the sort of damage done by their larvae.

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Right, took a close look earlier, and a couple of leaves had a number of small holes in them. Turning them over I see a whole lot of tiny green caterpillars! My camera doesn't do close ups of v small things so I'll go down again in a couple of days and try to get a pic when they get a bit bigger.

I therefore wish to withdraw my original bad identification of it being a Hawkmoth!

So, does this help with identification? Or will it have to wait for pictures?

Thanks for the help so far.
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[quote=Jon Turner;3581365!

So, does this help with identification? Or will it have to wait for pictures?

Thanks for the help so far.[/QUOTE]

I think that even the best here, of which I'm not one, will struggle with 'green caterpillar' Jon and you'll have to get a pic.


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Right, took a close look earlier, and a couple of leaves had a number of small holes in them. Turning them over I see a whole lot of tiny green caterpillars! My camera doesn't do close ups of v small things so I'll go down again in a couple of days and try to get a pic when they get a bit bigger.

I therefore wish to withdraw my original bad identification of it being a Hawkmoth!

So, does this help with identification? Or will it have to wait for pictures?

Thanks for the help so far.
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Holes in leaves often indicates beetle larvae damage. Some pictures should help.
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Will visit daily and try to get the camera to focus properly until I nail this!
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Will visit daily and try to get the camera to focus properly until I nail this!
Have you got a macro function, most small digital's and even phones do these days Jon?


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Me personally or the camera?
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I'm inclining to the Sawfly story based on the info so far...
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Pics at last

First pic is the upper side of the holey leaf. 2nd is the beasties underneath.
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Still can't see much detail but I still think it's a sawfly. Some appear to show the classic ? resting posture.
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