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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 15:28   #1
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Just stumbled upon this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OTVuqV9wys

Would this be about the Trinovid HD or something new

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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 16:00   #2
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wow...I'm very curious about this. Thanks for posting.
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Nice find! Since Trinovid HD is launched already this must surely be something new but how strange it wasn't launched at Bird Fair.

However their legend is the Trinovid so could it be a Trinovid UHD to replace Ultravid?

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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 17:45   #4
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Something with Uppendahl prisms, maybe?

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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 17:58   #5
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Looks to be a pocket binocular...maybe 25mm or even 30mm. Would be wonderful if it's the old classic body or has some aesthetic of the old design.
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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 18:11   #6
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Looks to be a pocket binocular...maybe 25mm or even 30mm. Would be wonderful if it's the old classic body or has some aesthetic of the old design.
Yes it does but a 32mm Noctivid wouldn't be a returning legend. The two legends Leica has are:

The original Uppendahl Trinovid which Bob refers to and the BA/BN series that dominated the market before Swaro's EL came along.

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Old Tuesday 29th August 2017, 18:24   #7
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Yes it does but a 32mm Noctivid wouldn't be a returning legend. The two legends Leica has are:

The original Uppendahl Trinovid which Bob refers to and the BA/BN series that dominated the market before Swaro's EL came along.

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Yes, I know. It has nothing to do with the Noctivid. I never mentioned Noctivid in my post.

I'm aware it's a Trinovid (ad mentions this). I was speculating on the size since the ad mentions it's a pocket binocular.
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Trinovid HD Blackline? Smaller Trinnie HD x30, x28, x25? Something in their BCA line? At least it's not months like some announcements.
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Trinovid HD Blackline? Smaller Trinnie HD x30, x28, x25? Something in their BCA line? At least it's not months like some announcements.
You're probably correct and it's just an update of the last Trinovid BCA pocket which offered 8x20 and 10x25 or updated as "HD" to join the new HD Trinovid line.

But, the best case scenario IMO would be in the old classic body like in the video. I doubt it...but it would be really something to actually bring back the old Trinovid with new glass
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Yes it does but a 32mm Noctivid wouldn't be a returning legend. The two legends Leica has are:

The original Uppendahl Trinovid which Bob refers to and the BA/BN series that dominated the market before Swaro's EL came along.

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So perhaps compact, but still good in low light? Does sound a bit like a baby-Noctivid?
But #leicatrinovid suggest other I guess. A 7/8x35mm would be nice. Another pocket bin would be boring...
A rival to the 8x32 SV would be VERY interesting. Glare free and good eye relief, and still compact and <700 grams
it might be tempting.

https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/4...endahl-prisms/

"Uppendahls should have greater light transmission than AK and SP prisms because the Uppendahls have only two air glass surfaces opposed to four on the others (I have never seen an AK or SP with cemented prisms reducing # air glass surfaces).
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/binocw...9716/lightbox/

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6x24 Trinovid?
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Yes, I know. It has nothing to do with the Noctivid. I never mentioned Noctivid in my post.

I'm aware it's a Trinovid (ad mentions this). I was speculating on the size since the ad mentions it's a pocket binocular.
No you didn't but some folks are waiting for a Noctivid 32 and may have thought an announcement for a compact bin was sure to be this.

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No you didn't but some folks are waiting for a Noctivid 32 and may have thought an announcement for a compact bin was sure to be this.

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That would be really nice.
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I'm guessing it will be only a new skin. Full sized BL with pebble texture.

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You're probably correct and it's just an update of the last Trinovid BCA pocket which offered 8x20 and 10x25 or updated as "HD" to join the new HD Trinovid line.

But, the best case scenario IMO would be in the old classic body like in the video. I doubt it...but it would be really something to actually bring back the old Trinovid with new glass
"Optical Performance. Pocket Size. Experts’ Choice"

Looks more like return of a larger classic in the vid. The old Letiz Trinovids 8x40 weight less than 600 grams, and some versions seem to have a huge FOV.
Wonder how crazy this can be...

"Those 1st generation Trinovids from 1958 had 170/1000m or 9.7 deg. RFoV (7x42) and 175/1000m or 10 deg. RFov (8x40) which equates indeed to round about 70 and 80 deg. AFoV."

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=244984&page=3
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"Optical Performance. Pocket Size. Experts’ Choice"

Looks more like return of a larger classic in the vid. The old Letiz Trinovids 8x40 weight less than 600 grams, and some versions seem to have a huge FOV.
Wonder how crazy this can be...

"Those 1st generation Trinovids from 1958 had 170/1000m or 9.7 deg. RFoV (7x42) and 175/1000m or 10 deg. RFov (8x40) which equates indeed to round about 70 and 80 deg. AFoV."

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=244984&page=3
I hope it's something smaller than 40mm. I'd love to have 6/7x 30mm or something like that.

Hopefully it's not some limited edition with ridiculous price tag.
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I think it is unlikely a video like this would be used as a teaser for a normal 8x20-10x25 pocket binocular. Showing images like here raises expectations about something a little bigger but yet smaller than a typical 8x32. Interesting.

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I think it is unlikely a video like this would be used as a teaser for a normal 8x20-10x25 pocket binocular. Showing images like here raises expectations about something a little bigger but yet smaller than a typical 8x32. Interesting.

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Bringing back 7x35 maybe.
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Bringing back 7x35 maybe.
The guy wearing the binoculars which are zoomed on in the video is Heinz Sielmann. The same photograph can be found in higher quality here:

https://www.sielmann-stiftung.de/fil...8_Foto_HSS.jpg (seems you have to copy and paste the URL to view the picture)

Just in case someone would like to identify the model of the binoculars ...

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I suppose it's too much to hope that this might be a re-issue of one or more of the original Leitz Trinovids. The basic optical design would still stand up. All they need to be "modern" binoculars are multcoating, dielectric prism coating and phase correction. They were all exceptionally light compared to current binoculars (8x32 - 490gr, 8/10x40 - 590gr, 7x42 - 660gr). With the right coatings they could have the highest light transmission available since they had only 10 glass-to-air surfaces. And they were lovely objects.
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I suppose it's too much to hope that this might be a re-issue of one or more of the original Leitz Trinovids. The basic optical design would still stand up. All they need to be "modern" binoculars are multcoating, dielectric prism coating and phase correction. They were all exceptionally light compared to current binoculars (8x32 - 490gr, 8/10x40 - 590gr, 7x42 - 660gr). With the right coatings they could have the highest light transmission available since they had only 10 glass-to-air surfaces. And they were lovely objects.
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I agree with you, the original Leitz Trinovid is a very nice example of
beauty in optics. I have mentioned before on here I have a 10x40, and
I find it to have the best collimation of all of the binoculars I have tested.

This would be a very nice classic binocular, if dressed up in new optics.
The Leica crowd may really like a retro binocular like this.
I suppose they have this covered with the leather Ultravid BL.

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6x24 Trinovid?
Yeah, this is the one I'd like to see. It's the gem of a brilliant bunch in that era. A few have been bemoaning the bizarre lack of such a glass format in the market.
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At 16 seconds it looks like the actual new binocular...they flash it real quick. It has pebbled leather.
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Just viewed it again...yep, looks like the new model and looks like it could be the classic design. They flash it right after the retro photos (at 16 seconds). Looking forward to Monday when it's finally revealed.
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