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Old Wednesday 30th August 2017, 01:15   #26
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Just viewed it again...yep, looks like the new model and looks like it could be the classic design. They flash it right after the retro photos (at 16 seconds). Looking forward to Monday when it's finally revealed.
I think you are right, it is the full size Leitz Trinovid.

Only Leica would revive the Uppendahl prism design. I also respect they
brought out the Perger prism.

I like this a lot...

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Thanks Gilmore Girl. If that's the "new" binocular it's a dead ringer for one of the original Trinovids in 8x32 or larger. The 6x24 can be ruled out by the pebbling extending beyond the prism housing onto the objective tube.
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Old Wednesday 30th August 2017, 01:45   #28
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The guy wearing the binoculars which are zoomed on in the video is Heinz Sielmann. The same photograph can be found in higher quality here:

https://www.sielmann-stiftung.de/fil...8_Foto_HSS.jpg (seems you have to copy and paste the URL to view the picture)

Just in case someone would like to identify the model of the binoculars ...

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That binocular looks like a Leitz Trinovid.

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Old Wednesday 30th August 2017, 01:50   #29
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Here is one, what a great binocular. The Leitz Trinovid 10x40 B.

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Old Wednesday 30th August 2017, 02:00   #30
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I think you are right, it is the full size Leitz Trinovid.

Only Leica would revive the Uppendahl prism design. I also respect they
brought out the Perger prism.

I like this a lot...

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It's pretty exciting and unexpected ... a pleasant surprise.
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Old Wednesday 30th August 2017, 02:06   #31
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Thanks Gilmore Girl. If that's the "new" binocular it's a dead ringer for one of the original Trinovids in 8x32 or larger. The 6x24 can be ruled out by the pebbling extending beyond the prism housing onto the objective tube.
so no 6x24 :(. That would have been great. I'm hoping for 6x/7x 32mm/35mm or even 8x32 provided ER is enough for me.
Also hope it's not a 2k binocular and the price is somewhat down to earth. I spent a lot on my UV Plus ( which I still love), but I don't want to spend that type of money again.
Something to look forward to this Monday.
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Here is one, what a great binocular. The Leitz Trinovid 10x40 B.

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Classic, through and through.
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You can also see that the binocular shown at 8 or 9 seconds in the youtube link (the binocular that is held in the hand while it is put into the coat pocket) is also a Leitz Trinovid.

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Here is one, what a great binocular. The Leitz Trinovid 10x40 B.

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What makes this binocular a classic and a stand out in its day?

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Old Wednesday 30th August 2017, 07:37   #35
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What makes this binocular a classic and a stand out in its day?

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It was among the first civilian binoculars with B-oculars, and it featured an internal focusing mechanism (realized through a floating group of lenses inside the eyepiece). The Leitz Trinovid series was also extremely light weight by today's standards, yet with wide fields of view.

To me, the best of the lot was the 7x35 B, an amazing binocular with a perfect ease of view.

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Bruce

Holger is spot-on. The Trinovids were genuine internal focusing whereas my Dialyt 10x40 B and BGATs of the same era had moving objective lenses so were not really internal focusers. This never gave me problems of water or dust ingress but cleaning the objective lenses was a tricky job because the internal surface of the optical tubes always gathered a thin layer of grease where the objectives had travelled back and forth and this trapped dust and tiny fragments of vegetation.

The bellows effect of the moving objectives fed back strange changes in focus resistance when on mountain tops or in airliners.

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The Ad mentions it's pocket size, so how could it be a full size bin being offered here?
Wouldn't the Ad be misleading if it's full size 40-42mm? I know the old 40mm was small, but this size
isn't generally conisidered pocket.

I only saw one classic Trinovid in person and the guy was surrounded by other birders so I never asked him about it.
It looked in great shape still. I see the later " ribbed rubber beast" version every so often when out.
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I asked if they were going to release 32mm Noctovids, below is the answer I got.... Damn, I guess we shall be kept in suspense for another 4 days :)

technicalinfo@leicacamerausa.com>
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We’re sorry but the Leica headquarters in Germany does not provide advance information about products that may be in development for future release.

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There is a new set of Trinovids shown on the Leica Germany site here:

https://de.leica-camera.com/Sportopt...vid-HD/Modelle

Not sure where the innovation is, but they are a topic of discussion (in German) here:
http://www.juelich-bonn.com/jForum/r...044#msg-434044

Seems the FoV is 124M at 1000M, relatively narrow, but the close focus is 1M.

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Unfortunately, ER still appears to be an issue.

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The quick flashes of the new body shown around 0:16 sec certainly do look like the classic Trinovid. The distinctive screwheads near the diopter even make a brief appearance. (Attached is a photo of one of the screwheads on an old 7x42). The beauty of this old design is that the same prism housing is used for every model from 32mm to 35mm to 42mm... just different sized objective tubes to match the objectives. So it would be relatively easy for Leica to release a wide range of configurations. Of course, this could be just a limited release homage with an astronomical price (but I hope not!).
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There is a new set of Trinovids shown on the Leica Germany site here:

https://de.leica-camera.com/Sportopt...vid-HD/Modelle

Not sure where the innovation is, but they are a topic of discussion (in German) here:
http://www.juelich-bonn.com/jForum/r...044#msg-434044

Seems the FoV is 124M at 1000M, relatively narrow, but the close focus is 1M.
That one is not that new, see also here:
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=348758
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7x35
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Will be released for direct supply as of next week
Retro look with the latest trinovid technology
Price level 1200 € rrp
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7x35 FOV? Size? Thanks!
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If the 10x40 has an 8 degree field of view, as it should have, I'm interested.
If much less I am not interested in yet another wasted opportunity to actually produce something refreshing and worthwhile, instead of another one of the same.
I suppose Japanese made?

Also interested in a 6x24 with a 12.5 degree field as per previous Leitz binoculars.

The only really interesting binoculars to me in the last twenty years are the Canon IS range.
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We'll all have to wait and see whether these are just more of the same, i.e. SP prisms instead of Uppendahl prisms, or really something different. Something close to the old, original Trinovid for instance.

BTW, interesting to read how many people seem to be in love with 6x or 7x binoculars. The harsh reality is that these binoculars don't sell. A 6x24 would be a total disaster.

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BTW, interesting to read how many people seem to be in love with 6x or 7x binoculars. The harsh reality is that these binoculars don't sell. A 6x24 would be a total disaster.

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People love them because the Leitz in this format and size is brilliant. I've certainly never seen a better compact binocular. Perhaps some cunning advertising from an alpha brand could reeducate people about the superiority of this format for compact bins.

Just wondering, which current 6x24 roof binoculars are such a sales disaster?

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ALL binoculars with magnifications below 8 are commercial disasters. Which is why the big three are phasing them out. As to the 6x24: There's a reason the main makers don't make a 6x24, don't you think so ?

That said, a 7x35 like the old Trinovid may have
a chance provided it is small and light with a good FOV. As soon as Leica make it bigger and heavier, it'll be just another binocular. Not something special.

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BTW, interesting to read how many people seem to be in love with 6x or 7x binoculars. The harsh reality is that these binoculars don't sell.

Hermann
I see this in forums discussing sports cars as well. Everyone claims to love simple, lightweight manual gearbox cars - but that's not what folks actually go out and buy.
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There are stil those of us who love low power binos and actually buy them and use them.

My birding binos are 7x42 and 6x32. I don't use anything else.

It's true they don't sell well, but I still like talking about them here.
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