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Old Wednesday 25th October 2017, 07:19   #26
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Forgive my ignorance about M4/3 but what would be an appropriate body to go with this lens and do you know roughly what the combined weight would be?
The PL 100-400 is 2.17 pounds (984g), and the Oly EM-1 mk. ii, which I use, is 1.1 pounds (499g). Another popular M4/3 body on this forum is the G80/85, which is not so expensive and weighs about the same. I don't have any problem carrying this on my shoulder all day. However, when you include the cost of the body, you do spend $1 to 2k more (in the US) for a M4/3 setup than the RX10iv.
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Old Wednesday 25th October 2017, 11:04   #27
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Thanks for your replies; they're both very useful. Lots to ponder.
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Old Wednesday 25th October 2017, 13:08   #28
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Compared to many other bridge cameras out there 600mm seems rather modest so why would one buy this camera rather than one with a smaller sensor but a 1200+mm upper range? This isn't, I hasten to add, a criticism but just a question!
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I bough the Sony RX10iii because I wanted to improve on the image quality I was getting with the Sony SX50HS, which has the reach and the smaller sensor, and I have been delighted that I did so.

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What is the Sony RX10 iii like in low light? For me that is a crucial point. I'm getting fed up of lugging an SLR and lens around but I'm after a camera that can cope with poor light. I realise that it's not likely to be up there with my 7D mark ii but I need it to be not that far behind for it to be a viable option for me.
Here's some samples Steve of the RX10iii (not iv) in low and adverse light.

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=328256 post 5 pic 3 and post 7 especially may help.

I've posted a few more below.

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What is the Sony RX10 iii like in low light? For me that is a crucial point. I'm getting fed up of lugging an SLR and lens around but I'm after a camera that can cope with poor light. I realise that it's not likely to be up there with my 7D mark ii but I need it to be not that far behind for it to be a viable option for me.
I have used Leica R9 with digital back and long lenses, Sony Alpha A900 plus longest Zeiss or Sony lenses, latterly I have used Olympus 2x OMD E-M1 with pro lenses.

The RX10 Mk 3 can perform in most southern UK lighting conditions with no problem at all. It is quite useable at higher ISO numbers which is a huge change from earlier bridge type cameras when anything over ISO 400 was a no-no. My minimum setting on both the Mk 3 and Mk4 is 1600 and ISO3200 is quite acceptable. In the real world though so long as you set a maximum limit then Auto ISO produces very good images on an everyday basis.
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Some of the hardcore photographers see DPreview Sony cybershop forum fix the aperture for the RX10iii at F4 with a min shutter speed of 1/250. I am trying this.

There are also a few sample of birds in flights and other bird pix taken with the RX10Iv coming through on the same forum.

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I bough the Sony RX10iii because I wanted to improve on the image quality I was getting with the Sony SX50HS, which has the reach and the smaller sensor, and I have been delighted that I did so.

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I do use my SX50 sometimes but I find it very frustrating after being used to a SLR with 10fps and a big buffer plus the slower autofocusing and poor low light ability. It's not just the quality of the images isn't as good - although it is very reasonable in good light - but more the fact that I miss many more shots.
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Question: Does anyone know what the shot buffer is in (i) Raw, and (ii) Raw + Jpeg ??

The specs state 249 shots for only the mid level Jpeg setting - Fine - 10MP, but don't say anything else. Thanks.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Du8UugLWJgNice bit of slow motion bird video.
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A nice bit of action video and what a feisty little bird the Greenfinch is!
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It's out in the UK and getting very good reviews. It would seem it is by a long way the best bridge camera but also by a long way the most expensive. 1510 for a grey important. When I'm feeling less skint, it'll be very tempting.
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DPReview ---- the verdict is in !!

https://m.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-...ot-dsc-rx10-iv




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It's out in the UK and getting very good reviews. It would seem it is by a long way the best bridge camera but also by a long way the most expensive. 1510 for a grey important. When I'm feeling less skint, it'll be very tempting.
New models are always more expensive but if you are not concerned about lack of phase AF or weather sealing then a used Mk 3 model would be a great buy for you. There should be a number up for sale as they get traded for the Mk4. Identical lens and sensor with a different processor I believe. The Mk 3 is only over a year so not much mileage either.

I sold mine to LCE but try others .
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The improved focus is a big selling point. I'll stick with the SLR for now and buy one before the next trip I go on which involves a lot of mountain walking - which the next few don't - or when I'm feeling more flush.
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