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Old Friday 10th November 2017, 09:41   #1
Sangahyando
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Redstarts, Gansu/China, 08/2006

I had initially put these down as Black Redstart (Phoenicurus ochruros rufiventris), but looking at the images again, and comparing them to the BF gallery and the pictures at the Oriental Bird Images site, I'm not so sure. The crown seems awfully bright for that species, even taking into account the strong light, and in one picture (unfortunately the worst one), one specimen shows a white wing patch. I think the chief reason, other than habitat, why I didn't list them as Daurian Redstart is because the Daurians I'd seen before had really well-marked wing patches. Not sure if Hodgson's is an option. Or is the pattern variation within the range of Black Redstart after all?

The location was Bingling Si (a UNESCO cultural heritage site in southern Gansu); the habitat is a narrow valley between rock formations close to the Yellow River at ca. 1750m ASL (the nearby Liujiaxia reservoir is at ~1735m), with some groves of willows etc., a mostly dried out creek, some buildings, and lots of shrub and rocks. Among the other species I've seen there were Common Swift, Crag Martin, Grey-capped Greenfinch, Himalayan Griffon, Rock and Hill Pigeons, Chestnut Thrush, Japanese Tit, and Brown (?) Shrike.

All of the pictures were cropped, two of them (the terrible ones) were taken by me and the others by a fellow traveller (which explains the different quality and divergent exif data). Unfortunately, I don't have any others that show a clearer side or dorsal view.

As alway, feedback is much appreciated.

- Andy
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Old Friday 10th November 2017, 11:02   #2
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Male Hodgson's Redstart.

'Eastern' Black Redstart lacks white in the wing. Daurian has more extensive/solid white in wing and black throat which does not extend onto the breast.

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Thanks a lot So it seems like I've got another "stealth lifer" there, as I hadn't encountered Hodgson's Redstart before, or since.
Anyone else agree/disagree?
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