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Old Sunday 4th September 2005, 08:50   #1
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I was in Gascony, SW France for a couple of weeks at the end of July and beginning of August, and took my Robinson and Heath traps. Just sorting through the photos - I've got them all cropped, levelled and sharpened, now just need to identify them...

Here are some micros that I haven't got yet - any pointers gratefully received.

1. I assume is a Crambid, but can't find it from a quick look.
5. I think is Ostrinia nubialis, but would appreciate confirmation.

Apparently they have two terms for "moth" in French, "mite" and "papillon de nuit". I had been using "mite" to explain to the locals what I was up to, but someone has since told me that this refers to clothes moths - may explain some of the odd looks. Or maybe the two are broadly equivalent to our "micro" and "macro"? In which case we are looking at mites here...

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Old Sunday 4th September 2005, 11:23   #2
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I was in Gascony, SW France for a couple of weeks at the end of July and beginning of August, and took my Robinson and Heath traps. Just sorting through the photos - I've got them all cropped, levelled and sharpened, now just need to identify them...

Here are some micros that I haven't got yet - any pointers gratefully received.

1. I assume is a Crambid, but can't find it from a quick look.
5. I think is Ostrinia nubialis, but would appreciate confirmation.

Apparently they have two terms for "moth" in French, "mite" and "papillion de nuit". I had been using "mite" to explain to the locals what I was up to, but someone has since told me that this refers to clothes moths - may explain some of the odd looks. Or maybe the two are broadly equivalent to our "micro" and "macro"? In which case we are looking at mites here...

Andrew
Not going to be able to help with all, but the second is Ypsolopha scabrella and the last is Ebulea crocealis.

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Old Tuesday 6th September 2005, 05:21   #3
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3. is probably Actenia sp., Pyralidae.
4. could be Trachycera suavella.
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Thanks guys - and sorry not to respond sooner as have only just got back on BF after the migration to the new server. Think what solved my problem was closing down my firewall (Agnitum Outpost) - then got on fine, and no problems with the firewall reinstalled.

Harri - agree that Actenia sp looks good - found a similar pic on the internet, but don't think I've found the right species. This was a fairly common moth on my trip, and I'm a bit surprised not to find it, given its distinctiveness.

I'll take this opportunity to post a few more, and then I think that's it for the un-id-ed micros. Will post a few of the macros when I get some time.

Also number 1 of the first bunch still open for offers...

Thanks all.

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Further thoughts on the second lot:

1. ?
2. Olethreutinae?
3. Tortricinae, I guess, but given its distinctiveness, I'm surprised not to have tracked it down on the internet.
4. I think this one is Gypsonoma sociana.
5.
I think this one may be a pyralid, but haven't checked through them yet.
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Further thoughts on the second lot:

1. ?
2. Olethreutinae?
3. Tortricinae, I guess, but given its distinctiveness, I'm surprised not to have tracked it down on the internet.
4. I think this one is Gypsonoma sociana.
5.
I think this one may be a pyralid, but haven't checked through them yet.
Would think 4 is Spilonota ocellana. #1 is Tortricidae: Cochylinae (or Cochylinii depending on one's taxonomic preference!), similar to Cochylis molliculana, but I'm not going to commit from the photo I'm afraid. #5 is a phycitine pyralid, close to Phycita roborella I'd guess. #2 maybe a Hedya sp.
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Would think 4 is Spilonota ocellana. #1 is Tortricidae: Cochylinae (or Cochylinii depending on one's taxonomic preference!), similar to Cochylis molliculana, but I'm not going to commit from the photo I'm afraid. #5 is a phycitine pyralid, close to Phycita roborella I'd guess. #2 maybe a Hedya sp.
My suggestions are:

1. Cochylimorpha alternana.
2. Hedya ochroleucana.
3. Clepsis pallidana.
4. agreed on S. ocellana.
5. agreed on Phycita sp..
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