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Old Saturday 7th January 2006, 15:18   #1
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vireo id

please help id I think its a philly vireo it has a beautiful song and it responds to various vireo calls from my thayer birding software program. I put the comp speakers near a window.
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Old Saturday 7th January 2006, 15:32   #2
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Hello steveo,

I think this is a Red-eyed Vireo. Notice the long and contrasting black eyestripe, white eyebrow, and plain gray crown; and the strong yellow tinge to the side of the breast but a whitish belly.
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Old Saturday 7th January 2006, 15:48   #3
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Hi there,
This is not a Red-eyed Vireo, due to the structure, lack of dark border above supercilium etc. I did consider Warbling Vireo, but, from a quick Google search, they don't seem to get this bright or well-marked about the head.
It seems likely to be a Philadelphia Vireo alright, some pics online show birds with limited yellow. Tennessee Warbler would seem to be ruled out on head/ bill shape, but they can be quite similar to PV.
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Old Saturday 7th January 2006, 15:50   #4
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Old Saturday 7th January 2006, 17:16   #5
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I meant that I agree with Red-eyed, because of the strong, and seemingly broad dark
eye stripe in front of the eye, looks thinner in PV, maybe not always so thin as this one:

http://www.alanmurphyphotography.com...lphiavireo.htm

PV has a yellowish throat, sometimes pale yellowish, but is seems to always have at least some obvious yellow. the throat seem to be whitish on the subject bird, and the underparts does seem to have a slight hue of yellow, but itīs difficult to judge in these images with all that green foliage that surrounds it. Harry mentioned the wellknown dark border above the eye, and that was one of the first clues I was looking for, but can only get a hint of it in image 1, if correctly obseved, but not in front of the eye though, but look at this Red-eyed in the big pic.

http://www.bbbo.org/photos/vireos/

Looking at Red-eyed in these images, one can also see that the dark eye stripe is somewhat straighter at the upper border (lower as well), or is it simply that it is more level together with the supercilium, not creating the bulge as in PV. as if the eye was sitting higher in head on PV. The ear coverts looks green as in REV, with less white under the eye, comp. to PV. Tail seems long for PV.


http://www.notason.com/oiseaux/id487.htm


http://www.painetworks.com/pages2/hk/hk0684.html

http://www.featheredfotos.com/spppag...a%20vireo.html

September:

http://www.pbase.com/tgrey/vireo_philadelphia

http://www.bdi.org/GalleryDetail.cfm...ireo-small.jpg


http://www.jkcassady.com/gallery/phvi.htm
REV:

http://www.utahbirds.org/birdsofutah...dEyedVireo.htm
Notice the broad looking eye stripe.

http://www.oiseaux.net/photos/carol....l.rouge.1.html

http://www.kennewcombe.com/redeyedvireo.html


http://www.notason.com/oiseaux/id462.htm

http://www.montereybay.com/creagrus/ID-WAVIvPHVI.html

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Old Saturday 7th January 2006, 22:15   #6
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V. olivaceus for me. I think I can just discern the dark border delimiting the white supercilium in the first pic - absent in philadelphicus. Also, the beak looks too strong for philadelphicus - which has a shorter, less massive beak. As noted, the preocular eye-stripe looks strong, too strong for the Philadelphia Vireo.
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Steveo, when and where were the photos taken?

I agree with the bird being a Red-eyed Vireo for the same reasons given above.
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The song is an easy one, it goes- Here I am. Where are you? It is a three noted song followed by a long pause.
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Thatīs a Red-eyed Vireo for sure. Reasons are well treated above. The only problem is that the tree is on focus, not the bird.
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Old Sunday 8th January 2006, 18:37   #10
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Thanks alot ,the picture was taken in late spring in North central Vermont USA, ps sorry about the bad focus.
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Hi all,
I realise now that I was wrong to 'rule out' Red-eyed Vireo so readily, and now agree that this is one: I was guilty of putting too much stock in the odd-looking face (probably due to the photo being out of focus), and not spending enough time looking at the whole bird, as I would if confronted by a vireo in the field. I really could do with extending my experience of the genus beyond two vagrant REVs here!
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Hi all,
I realise now that I was wrong to 'rule out' Red-eyed Vireo so readily, and now agree that this is one: I was guilty of putting too much stock in the odd-looking face (probably due to the photo being out of focus), and not spending enough time looking at the whole bird, as I would if confronted by a vireo in the field. I really could do with extending my experience of the genus beyond two vagrant REVs here!
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Hi Harry,

You should really get yourself out to the states in spring - you can have wonderful birding in Central Park - all just an hour or so from the NY airports. If it makes you feel any better it looks a little 'slighter' than the average red-eye to me in these pics.

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It sure is a nice bark on that tree. Some sort of cherry?
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