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Old Saturday 11th February 2006, 11:07   #1
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couple of Aussie waders

Not good with waders...

Taken at The Entrance, NSW on 5th Feb. Apologies about the quality

1. Marsh Sandpiper?
2. ??

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Old Saturday 11th February 2006, 11:18   #2
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Not good with waders...
Nor me

Quality of the photo's shouldn't be a problem, they look ok here!

1. Marsh Sandpiper? - looks like one to me ...
2. ?? - Sanderling sprang to mind but I don't think it is, the black 'shoulder patch' seems to be missing.

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Old Saturday 11th February 2006, 11:45   #3
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Hi,

For number one i'd be more inclined to err towards Greenshank..... too thick set for Marsh Sand in my view, plus the head pattern looks wrong.

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First one looks right for Greenshank. Bill shape and size, plus "back-combed" look on back of head.
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Not good with waders...

Taken at The Entrance, NSW on 5th Feb. Apologies about the quality

1. Marsh Sandpiper?
2. ??

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1. Greenshank
2. Red-necked Stint
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Old Saturday 11th February 2006, 12:09   #6
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1st is a greenshank. 2nd a sanderling i guess. edit: hm, yes, i was worried it might be red-necked stint and on head marks and those well marked scaps it looks prob. better for ruficollis, it's just that the bird looked too stocky or "short" for RNS to me. now what is it?
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Greenshank.
Red-necked Stint (seems to have a hind toe, left leg)
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Old Saturday 11th February 2006, 13:19   #8
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do they molt their primaries now? or why does it look so shortwinged?
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Could be Lou, if an adult. Normally the complete moult in adults (partial in juveniles), is in late summer-autumn, the moult of primaries moult and its duration may at times be prolonged to winter. Partial moult in spring. The idea is that the subject stint could be a 1st winter/summer (?), who has renewed the scapulars (many dark centered scapulars) to a non rufous 1st summer plumage. Primary wear is a good distinction from adults, since adult has fresher primaries in winter/spring. Apparently much variation, some moult inner primaries in autumn, suspend and complete in winter quarters, some moult all primaries in winter quarters.

http://homepage2.nifty.com/stints/ca...dneck-1wC.html

http://www.birdinghawaii.co.uk/XPeepid2.htm

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