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Old Wednesday 23rd October 2013, 13:11   #1
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Spurn YWT - road closed

http://www.ywt.org.uk/reserves/spurn-nature-reserve

Vehicle access to the Point has been closed now for a while due to large tides and strong winds causing damage to the beach and road. YWT apologises for any inconvenience this causes. Access is still possible on foot or by bike at low tide.

Negotiations are under way with ABP who will reinstate the road once conditions allow.

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Old Wednesday 23rd October 2013, 18:14   #2
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I was told it will be spring before anything is done.
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Old Wednesday 30th October 2013, 10:16   #3
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I was told it will be spring before anything is done.
It's ALWAYS (late) spring before anything is done, in my experience :(
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Old Monday 4th November 2013, 12:35   #4
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How long would it take to walk to the point from where you can park before where the road is closed?

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Old Monday 4th November 2013, 12:55   #5
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How long would it take to walk to the point from where you can park before where the road is closed?

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You'd have to park at the warren, then it's 3 miles to the point, so I guess it would take about an hour
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Old Tuesday 5th November 2013, 05:26   #6
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You'd have to park at the warren, then it's 3 miles to the point, so I guess it would take about an hour
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Old Monday 23rd June 2014, 12:46   #7
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Hi, to all you birders.Well sit down and read this its straight from a horses mouth.The road will NOT re'open,APB/Pilots,have gone, re located over the river near Grimsby.YWT.have bought a converted unimog to carry approx 20 people.The chassis has been stretched,and the passenger carrying compartment has been raised by about 30cm.(dont think it will be too stable with 20 people in it going over soft sand)Rumour has it that it cost near 30.000.This new venture has been named The Spurn safari,and its going to start running mid july?The fare for this journey is 10per person plus 4 parking for none members.YWT have not made a big effort in letting folk know the road is closed and ive seen many disgruntled drivers turn round and leave, not wanting to pay 4 and have to walk the 4.5km (if your disabled its a no no)to the point.I have a very capable 4x4 with the right tyres on but they wont let me though,even tho.i am a member.So thats it for me im not paying 20 for my wife and i to go to the point,i am a pensioner you know.Well bye for now if i find out any more i'll let you know.regards Digger.
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Old Monday 23rd June 2014, 17:57   #8
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In the years when I birded Spurn intensively - a while back now - I did not drive and covered the peninsula on foot. I know others do now. Yes it will be awkward not being able to get down to the point in a hurry, but at the same time it will be nice to have less traffic and grockles everywhere down the road.

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Old Tuesday 24th June 2014, 11:41   #9
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must admit i've never walked the point before but its something I would like to do, guess theres not much choice now!
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Old Tuesday 24th June 2014, 15:11   #10
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must admit i've never walked the point before but its something I would like to do, guess theres not much choice now!
You can always hire the unimog
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Might have to invest in a push bike.
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When it does break though the gap will become wider and the unimog will be no good.Will the YWT.get a DUKW.
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Clearly the Disability Discrimination Act isn't something the YWT take too seriously. Pity.
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Old Wednesday 25th June 2014, 15:35   #14
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Clearly the Disability Discrimination Act isn't something the YWT take too seriously. Pity.
To be fair you cant expect a charity to keep on plunging thousands (millions?) of pounds into a road that's going to keep getting washed away, DDA Act or no.
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Think the only solution would be to pile drive,not sure if that is possible plus what the cost would be.
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Clearly the Disability Discrimination Act isn't something the YWT take too seriously. Pity.
No discrimination - disabled or not you can't drive down a road that isn't there.

Not sure how disabled people will be catered for in the 10 a go vehicle.

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No discrimination - disabled or not you can't drive down a road that isn't there.

Not sure how disabled people will be catered for in the 10 a go vehicle.

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Looking at it last week it's quite a climb for an able-bodied person, so I can't imagine how a wheelchair user could manage!
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I do wonder if YWT might consider setting up a mountain bike hire scheme, possibly from the new visitor centre.
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To be fair you cant expect a charity to keep on plunging thousands (millions?) of pounds into a road that's going to keep getting washed away, DDA Act or no.
Doesn't the DDA refer to "reasonable adjustments"? Naturally occurring changes to a landscape, that are proven historically to be even outside the power of an absolute monarch are surely excluded. You'd have to be King Cnut to think otherwise.

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must admit i've never walked the point before but its something I would like to do, guess theres not much choice now!
4km from warren to point.At the point there's no loo,and no facilities.Just a very nice place to do some birding.
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4km from warren to point.At the point there's no loo,and no facilities.Just a very nice place to do some birding.
yeh i've been a few times but always gone down in the car
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To be fair you cant expect a charity to keep on plunging thousands (millions?) of pounds into a road that's going to keep getting washed away.
Yorkshire Wildlife Trust DO NOT pay for the upkeep and repair of the road,and I don't think they ever have done.
Repairs to the road in recent years have been financed by ABP.
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I enjoy the walk down to the point, but I would only risk it if there was really nothing happening bird wise elsewhere around spurn as it's a long way back if something turns up.

Wonder if the road could be built like a causeway able to cope with being submerged regularly like the road to lindisfarne for example. Is this a cost issue or is the tide simply too violent at spurn?
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Wonder if the road could be built like a causeway able to cope with being submerged regularly like the road to lindisfarne for example. Is this a cost issue or is the tide simply too violent at spurn?
The road has always been on top of the sand spit and the problem is that it gets undercut and collapses. Even the temporary roads they have laid over the past 20 years or so are still on sand.

What you suggest makes sense. If the sand all gets washed away then there is much more resilient boulder clay beneath it. A causeway could be built on that and the tides would go over it rather than under it. Might work, but how expensive would it be and how long before even the clay erodes? Thinking about causeways at Lindisfarne and Marazion it must be a possibility though.

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On a related issue, what is happening to the plans to refurbish the lighthouse using the lottery funds. And for that matter what about the houses?
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