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jay1964 · Friday 18th July 2003, 17:59

Here is a list of bird names that are no longer commonly used. How many of these birds can you identify? Some are easy and they are all on the British list.

1. Wood Pie
2. Curre Pie
3. Goatsucker
4. Land Rail
5. Sea Swallow
6. Windhover
7. Stone Falcon
8. Sea Pie
9. Summer Snipe
10. Sea Snipe
11. White Nun
12. Ember Goose
13. Sea Pheasant
14. Green Plover

Tannin · Friday 18th July 2003, 18:16

1.

Do I win a prize?

**John N** · Friday 18th July 2003, 19:18

4=Corncrake
5== Arctic tern
6==Kestrel
14 Lapwing.
I think!!!

Cheers John

jay1964 · Friday 18th July 2003, 19:35

John N
Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes

seb_seb · Friday 18th July 2003, 22:13

goatsucker = nightjar?

Surreybirder · Friday 18th July 2003, 22:22

Sea pie = oystercatcher?
white nun = male smew
wood pie might be pied flycatcher?????

jay1964 · Sunday 20th July 2003, 11:14

Correct anwsers so far

3. Goatsucker = Nightjar
4. Land Rail = Corncrake
5. Sea Swallow = Arctic Tern
6. Windhover = Kestrel
8. Sea Pie = Oystercatcher
11. White Nun = Smew
14. Green Plover = Lapwing

The following still to be identified

1. Wood Pie
2. Curre Pie
7. Stone Falcon
9. Summer Snipe
10. Sea Snipe
12. Ember Goose
13. Sea Pheasant

Michael Frankis · Sunday 20th July 2003, 11:37

1. (Eurasian) Jay
9. Common Sandpiper
12. Great Northern Diver

Some more . . .
15. Skemmie
16. Cuddy Duck
17. Cushat
18. Erne

Michael

Surreybirder · Sunday 20th July 2003, 14:02

I believe that Erne is sea (white-tailed) eagle.
cuddy duck might be eider?

Michael Frankis · Sunday 20th July 2003, 14:15

Hi Surreybirder,
Yes, yes.

Erne, from old Norse Ørn, an eagle (originally any species, but fixed on White-tailed in Britain)

Cuddy Duck, from the familiar name for St. Cuthbert, who gave special protection to the Eiders on the Farne Islands in 676 AD

Michael

Surreybirder · Sunday 20th July 2003, 14:22

What a mine of information you are, Michael!

"stone falcon" and "summer snipe" are both easily found using Google... but I wouldn't want to spoil anyone's fun!!

jay1964 · Monday 21st July 2003, 19:39

Micheal
Your right with these
9. Summer Snipe = Common Sandpiper
12. Ember Goose = Great Northern Diver

The remainder are as follows

1. Wood Pie = Greater Spotted Woodpecker
2. Curre Pie = Razorbill
7. Stone Falcon = Merlin
10. Sea Snipe = Dunlin
13. Sea Pheasant = Pintail

Michael Frankis · Monday 21st July 2003, 19:54

Any takers for Skemmie and Cushat?

Michael

Sonia · Monday 21st July 2003, 21:05

Cushat - wood-pigeon?
Sonia

Michael Frankis · Monday 21st July 2003, 21:13

Yep, Wood Pigeon. An old northern England & Scotland name.

There's a Cushat Law (= 'Wood Pigeon Hill') in the Cheviot Hills in Northumberland.

Michael

Sonia · Monday 21st July 2003, 21:22

Found it in a 1955 book "The Birds of the British Isles - Migration and Habits" by TA Coward. - Thought it might be in there, the spin-off from this is that I am going to read this book. From just glancing at it, it seems beautifully written, with hand-coloured plates and black and white photos of things like the 'eggs of flamingo, Carargue'. Shame I don't know more about the state of play re: bird habits and migration these days as I'm sure there will be lots of differences.

Thanks for the quiz.
Sonia

Surreybirder · Monday 21st July 2003, 21:50

Presumably 'sea pheasant' was so named because it was good to hunt (and eat)?

Michael Frankis · Monday 21st July 2003, 22:05

No takers for Skemmie?

Maybe should be spelled Skemmy, I've never seen it written, only heard it talked about.

Clue: it is a somewhat contemptuous term for a common bird, and is a north-east England regional term.

Michael

Michael Frankis · Monday 21st July 2003, 22:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Surreybirder
Presumably 'sea pheasant' [Pintail] was so named because it was good to hunt (and eat)?

More likely the long tail!

Michael

Michael Frankis · Tuesday 22nd July 2003, 17:06

No takers, I guess!

Skemmy, skemmie = street pigeon (feral Rock Dove)

Michael

PS away for a couple of days from now

CJW · Tuesday 22nd July 2003, 17:38

It'll be peaceful on here then......

Friday 18th July 2003, 17:59	#1
jay1964 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SE London Posts: 47	Bird Names Here is a list of bird names that are no longer commonly used. How many of these birds can you identify? Some are easy and they are all on the British list. 1. Wood Pie 2. Curre Pie 3. Goatsucker 4. Land Rail 5. Sea Swallow 6. Windhover 7. Stone Falcon 8. Sea Pie 9. Summer Snipe 10. Sea Snipe 11. White Nun 12. Ember Goose 13. Sea Pheasant 14. Green Plover

Friday 18th July 2003, 19:18	#3
John N Super Moderator & Baggeridge Birder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sedgley, West Midlands. England. Posts: 14,594 My location	4=Corncrake 5== Arctic tern 6==Kestrel 14 Lapwing. I think!!! Cheers John __________________ Take only Pictures - Leave only Footprints - Kill only Time.
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Friday 18th July 2003, 22:13	#5
seb_seb Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: walsall west mids england Posts: 868	goatsucker = nightjar? __________________ "We will look at some ofthebirds niave to Australia, here we have the most niave of them all- the Kookaberry"-- Pontius, The Wildboys

Friday 18th July 2003, 22:22	#6
Surreybirder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SE Surrey Posts: 7,051 My location	Sea pie = oystercatcher? white nun = male smew wood pie might be pied flycatcher????? __________________ http://www.wildlife-galleries.co.uk//

Sunday 20th July 2003, 11:37	#8
Michael Frankis conehead Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newcastle, Northumberland, European Union Posts: 6,796	1. (Eurasian) Jay 9. Common Sandpiper 12. Great Northern Diver Some more . . . 15. Skemmie 16. Cuddy Duck 17. Cushat 18. Erne Michael __________________ My signature

Friday 18th July 2003, 18:16	#2
Tannin Common; sedentary. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ballarat, Australia Posts: 1,559	1. Do I win a prize?

Friday 18th July 2003, 19:35	#4
jay1964 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SE London Posts: 47	John N Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes

Sunday 20th July 2003, 11:14	#7
jay1964 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SE London Posts: 47	Correct anwsers so far 3. Goatsucker = Nightjar 4. Land Rail = Corncrake 5. Sea Swallow = Arctic Tern 6. Windhover = Kestrel 8. Sea Pie = Oystercatcher 11. White Nun = Smew 14. Green Plover = Lapwing The following still to be identified 1. Wood Pie 2. Curre Pie 7. Stone Falcon 9. Summer Snipe 10. Sea Snipe 12. Ember Goose 13. Sea Pheasant

Sunday 20th July 2003, 14:02	#9
Surreybirder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SE Surrey Posts: 7,051 My location	I believe that Erne is sea (white-tailed) eagle. cuddy duck might be eider? __________________ http://www.wildlife-galleries.co.uk//

Sunday 20th July 2003, 14:15	#10
Michael Frankis conehead Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newcastle, Northumberland, European Union Posts: 6,796	Hi Surreybirder, Yes, yes. Erne, from old Norse Ørn, an eagle (originally any species, but fixed on White-tailed in Britain) Cuddy Duck, from the familiar name for St. Cuthbert, who gave special protection to the Eiders on the Farne Islands in 676 AD Michael __________________ My signature Last edited by Michael Frankis : Sunday 20th July 2003 at 14:19.

Sunday 20th July 2003, 14:22	#11
Surreybirder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SE Surrey Posts: 7,051 My location	What a mine of information you are, Michael! "stone falcon" and "summer snipe" are both easily found using Google... but I wouldn't want to spoil anyone's fun!! __________________ http://www.wildlife-galleries.co.uk// Last edited by Surreybirder : Sunday 20th July 2003 at 14:25.

Monday 21st July 2003, 19:39	#12
jay1964 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SE London Posts: 47	Micheal Your right with these 9. Summer Snipe = Common Sandpiper 12. Ember Goose = Great Northern Diver The remainder are as follows 1. Wood Pie = Greater Spotted Woodpecker 2. Curre Pie = Razorbill 7. Stone Falcon = Merlin 10. Sea Snipe = Dunlin 13. Sea Pheasant = Pintail

Monday 21st July 2003, 19:54	#13
Michael Frankis conehead Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newcastle, Northumberland, European Union Posts: 6,796	Any takers for Skemmie and Cushat? Michael __________________ My signature

Monday 21st July 2003, 21:05	#14
Sonia Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South-east England Posts: 66	Cushat - wood-pigeon? Sonia

Monday 21st July 2003, 21:13	#15
Michael Frankis conehead Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newcastle, Northumberland, European Union Posts: 6,796	Yep, Wood Pigeon. An old northern England & Scotland name. There's a Cushat Law (= 'Wood Pigeon Hill') in the Cheviot Hills in Northumberland. Michael __________________ My signature

Monday 21st July 2003, 21:22	#16
Sonia Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South-east England Posts: 66	Found it in a 1955 book "The Birds of the British Isles - Migration and Habits" by TA Coward. - Thought it might be in there, the spin-off from this is that I am going to read this book. From just glancing at it, it seems beautifully written, with hand-coloured plates and black and white photos of things like the 'eggs of flamingo, Carargue'. Shame I don't know more about the state of play re: bird habits and migration these days as I'm sure there will be lots of differences. Thanks for the quiz. Sonia

Monday 21st July 2003, 21:50	#17
Surreybirder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SE Surrey Posts: 7,051 My location	Presumably 'sea pheasant' was so named because it was good to hunt (and eat)? __________________ http://www.wildlife-galleries.co.uk//

Monday 21st July 2003, 22:05	#18
Michael Frankis conehead Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newcastle, Northumberland, European Union Posts: 6,796	No takers for Skemmie? Maybe should be spelled Skemmy, I've never seen it written, only heard it talked about. Clue: it is a somewhat contemptuous term for a common bird, and is a north-east England regional term. Michael __________________ My signature

Tuesday 22nd July 2003, 17:06	#20
Michael Frankis conehead Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newcastle, Northumberland, European Union Posts: 6,796	No takers, I guess! Skemmy, skemmie = street pigeon (feral Rock Dove) Michael PS away for a couple of days from now __________________ My signature

Tuesday 22nd July 2003, 17:38	#21
CJW Grumpy Git Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Isle of Man Posts: 4,624	It'll be peaceful on here then...... __________________ Chris Isle of Man Birding

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