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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 15:17   #1
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Bahrain bunting?

I took this picture today in Bahrain and can't fully identify it. Ignore the crest as it was quite windy and may have been caused by wind behind the bird.

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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 15:48   #2
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Looks like a female Weaver of some sort. Don't know if any such is indiginous to the area or if it would be an escape (if that is indeed what it is).

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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 15:59   #3
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I took this picture today in Bahrain and can't fully identify it. Ignore the crest as it was quite windy and may have been caused by wind behind the bird.

http://www.birdforum.net/pp_gallery/...02505_800w.jpg

Thanks in advance.
Have you considered Rock Sparrow?
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Have you considered Rock Sparrow?
Yes but the picture in my field guide does not show as much yellow as the bird I photographed. It's worth considering.
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Yes but the picture in my field guide does not show as much yellow as the bird I photographed. It's worth considering.
check this picture

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Thanks, it's looking more like a rock sparrow.
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Hi Fair Islander

not convinced the bird pictured in your link is a Rock Sparrow - should show eg. pale-tipped dark under tail coverts, much longer primary projection, dark bill with yellowish base to lower mandible, pale tips to tail feathers. I suspect your link shows another female Weaver!

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Hi Fair Islander

not convinced the bird pictured in your link is a Rock Sparrow - should show eg. pale-tipped dark under tail coverts, much longer primary projection, dark bill with yellowish base to lower mandible, pale tips to tail feathers. I suspect your link shows another female Weaver!

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I think James is right.
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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 17:22   #9
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Hi AJDH and fair islander , both your birds are Euplectes weavers, probably the species Euplectes afer (Golden Bishop in english).

AJDH due to the black belly I think you bird is an male (in near full eclipse plumage), whereas the othe rmight be a female...

see following link

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Juv yellow crowned bishop? There's plenty of them breeding ferally in Dubai.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmuchaxo/188353968/

I think the other link is this sp. too and not a pale rock sparrow.
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Sorry, posted same time.
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not convinced the bird pictured in your link is a Rock Sparrow - should show eg. pale-tipped dark under tail coverts, much longer primary projection, dark bill with yellowish base to lower mandible, pale tips to tail feathers. I suspect your link shows another female Weaver!

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James, yes, you're absolutely right - looking at it again a little more carefully there are quite a few things wrong for Rock Sparrow - also a good lesson learnt in not to trust everything on the web being labelled correctly.
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Thank you all very much, I'll edit the picture now.
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That's nice we're all sorted on Yellow-crowned Bishop--RESULT!
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I've just found out that the Prime Minister of Bahrain has an island just off the coast from the farm where the picture was taken and he has hundreds of varieties of birds flying freely. With the recent winds, it's possible some have reached the mainland.
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Any idea of species? So that when one turns up here as a first for the UK we might have some idea where it came from!
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Any idea of species? So that when one turns up here as a first for the UK we might have some idea where it came from!
Sorry I don't but I know a man who might know. If I see him today, I'll ask.
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Any idea of species? So that when one turns up here as a first for the UK we might have some idea where it came from!
I spoke to the man who knows and he says there are about 50 species but he does not know what they are.
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There's only one wild species of weaver that breeds in Arabia and that is Ruppel's Weaver. I saw them many times in Jeddah, as they are common from the Hejaz, down to the Yemen, along the coastal plain. They also occur in Oman and some birds have established colonies in Riyadh.

It isn't that species, as the females basically lack a supercilium, and just have a pale yellowish wash to the otherwise buffy breast, with a light pink bill, with the mantle buffy with brown streaks, a buff rump, darker brown wings and tail.

The only other species that I know of that might fit the bill...is Streaked Weaver...which has established colonies from escapes in Egypt and Dubai..see pics below

http://www.pbase.com/clive_temple/image/68906619

However, knowing diddly squat about the large number of African species, except that the females are all pretty similar.. can't be sure it is that species so have to leave it up to the experts.
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