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A Banwell · Sunday 11th February 2007, 16:45

I found a pipit this afternoon with a striking grey nape. I have posted some photos of it here http://worldbirders.com/pipit-spp-Wi...-?r=1171213605 suggestions and comments would be welcome.Thanks

J Moss · Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:28

I reckon its a Water Pipit edging towards Summer plumage. Although the grey nape seems to dissapear in the last two pictures, so it may be something to do with light, or the photo.

Andrew Whitehouse · Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:31

I think a Meadow Pipit. Seems fairly normal in terms of streaking and general look. Some are a bit greyer than others.

Jane Turner · Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:34

My best guess is Meadow Pipit. They are very variable plumage-wise. The strength and sharpness of the flank stripes and head structure (weedy bill) are the key features for me. Also the mantle pattern and face pattern.

marklhawkes · Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:38

Agree with others. Have seen many variable Meadows, and this bird fits within that variation. Recent discussions about a bird in Cambs, claimed and photographed as a Water Pipit, was later confirmed as a Meadow with a grey nape.

J Moss · Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:42

I think I probably agree. The 'warmth' in the feathers (except the nape) is what I normally see as the best Meadow Pipit feature, and its present here. Was just the eyebrow and, obviously, the grey nape that had me.

David Norgate · Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:49

Has anyone considered Buff-bellied Pipit? or am I just being too hopeful?

Jane Turner · Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:53

Buff-bellied and japonicus! Yes I considered them. Still looks perfectly ok for the rather more likely Mipit though!

JANJ · Sunday 11th February 2007, 19:48

I agree with Meadow Pipit. Take away the grey nape - there´s your Meadow.

Consider the the upperpart pattern on Water and Buff-bellied Pipt just to mentoin one character.

JanJ

Sunday 11th February 2007, 16:45	#1
A Banwell Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: MARHAM Posts: 12	Pipit with grey nape seen in Norfolk 11-2-07 I found a pipit this afternoon with a striking grey nape. I have posted some photos of it here http://worldbirders.com/pipit-spp-Wi...-?r=1171213605 suggestions and comments would be welcome.Thanks

Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:31	#3
Andrew Whitehouse Professor of Listening Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 13,717 My location	I think a Meadow Pipit. Seems fairly normal in terms of streaking and general look. Some are a bit greyer than others. __________________ Andrew Listening to Birds

Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:34	#4
Jane Turner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hoylake, Merseyside Posts: 19,564 My location	My best guess is Meadow Pipit. They are very variable plumage-wise. The strength and sharpness of the flank stripes and head structure (weedy bill) are the key features for me. Also the mantle pattern and face pattern. __________________ If I'm not online I'm probably here! Last Cheshire Lesser Scaup (301) last Red Rocks Cetti's Warbler (249), last Garden Avocet (202), last Self-found Great White Egret (293)
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Jane Turner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hoylake, Merseyside Posts: 19,564 My location	Buff-bellied and japonicus! Yes I considered them. Still looks perfectly ok for the rather more likely Mipit though! __________________ If I'm not online I'm probably here! Last Cheshire Lesser Scaup (301) last Red Rocks Cetti's Warbler (249), last Garden Avocet (202), last Self-found Great White Egret (293)
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Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:28	#2
J Moss Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1,223 My location	I reckon its a Water Pipit edging towards Summer plumage. Although the grey nape seems to dissapear in the last two pictures, so it may be something to do with light, or the photo.

Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:38	#5
marklhawkes Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,688	Agree with others. Have seen many variable Meadows, and this bird fits within that variation. Recent discussions about a bird in Cambs, claimed and photographed as a Water Pipit, was later confirmed as a Meadow with a grey nape.

Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:42	#6
J Moss Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1,223 My location	I think I probably agree. The 'warmth' in the feathers (except the nape) is what I normally see as the best Meadow Pipit feature, and its present here. Was just the eyebrow and, obviously, the grey nape that had me.

Sunday 11th February 2007, 17:49	#7
David Norgate Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dereham Posts: 1,378	Has anyone considered Buff-bellied Pipit? or am I just being too hopeful?

Sunday 11th February 2007, 19:48	#9
JANJ Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,788	I agree with Meadow Pipit. Take away the grey nape - there´s your Meadow. Consider the the upperpart pattern on Water and Buff-bellied Pipt just to mentoin one character. JanJ

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