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Old Friday 6th April 2007, 20:54   #1
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Ruby Crowned Kinglet (Female) ? - Harbor City, CA -USA

I think this is a female Ruby Crowned Kinglet?

Seen today at Ken Malloy Regional Park in Harbor City.


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Old Friday 6th April 2007, 21:20   #2
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I think this is a female Ruby Crowned Kinglet?

Seen today at Ken Malloy Regional Park in Harbor City.
The bill doesn't look very kinglety to me - too short and thick - which makes me think Hutton's Vireo. Did the bird happen to be flitting its wings nervously (kinglet) or singing an incessant two-note upslurred song (vireo)?
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I don't think this is a Ruby-crowned Kinglet. A Ruby-crowned Kinglet has a "broken" eyering, that is there is white in front of and behind the eye, but not above and below the eye. The bill looks pretty substantial also, whereas the kinglet has a tiny, little bill. The bird in your photos looks pretty robust also. The kinglet is a delicate, smallish bird.

I thought that your bird might be a warbler of some kind, but (I think) the bill looks too hefty for a warbler.

So, I am not certain what your bird is, but perhaps someone from "out west" will be able to help you with your identification.
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Old Friday 6th April 2007, 21:24   #4
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Yes, I think it is one of the vireos as emupilot suggests.

Here are some photos of Hutton's Vireo.
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Old Friday 6th April 2007, 21:24   #5
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The bill doesn't look very kinglety to me - too short and thick - which makes me think Hutton's Vireo. Did the bird happen to be flitting its wings nervously (kinglet) or singing an incessant two-note upslurred song (vireo)?
Hutton's Vireo was my second choice.

Actually I'd rather it be the Vireo as that would be a new bird for me.

It didn't seem to flit around as much as the Ruby Crowned Kinglet I saw last month.

Didn't notice any song. The Great-tailed Grackles made enough noise to drown just about any other bird out.
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I believe it is a vireo of the "Solitary" complex. I see strong spectacles, a "hooded" appearance, wingbars and a heavy black bill. Lighting isn't that great so it's difficult to say, but I would go with the default Solitary- Cassin's Vireo. Plumbeous is quite rare as a spring migrant in CA, and Cassin's can look very worn lacking much of the olive color and grayish hood color making them look like a Plumbeous. But, given the date and probability, Cassin's Vireo is my vote. Was it singing? This helps.
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I believe it is a vireo of the "Solitary" complex. I see strong spectacles, a "hooded" appearance, wingbars and a heavy black bill. Lighting isn't that great so it's difficult to say, but I would go with the default Solitary- Cassin's Vireo. Plumbeous is quite rare as a spring migrant in CA, and Cassin's can look very worn lacking much of the olive color and grayish hood color making them look like a Plumbeous. But, given the date and probability, Cassin's Vireo is my vote. Was it singing? This helps.
Didn't notice it singing.

There were lots of Great-tailed Grackles at the park and they were very vocal. They tended to drown out any other bird sounds.
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I believe it is a vireo of the "Solitary" complex. I see strong spectacles, a "hooded" appearance, wingbars and a heavy black bill. Lighting isn't that great so it's difficult to say, but I would go with the default Solitary- Cassin's Vireo. Plumbeous is quite rare as a spring migrant in CA, and Cassin's can look very worn lacking much of the olive color and grayish hood color making them look like a Plumbeous. But, given the date and probability, Cassin's Vireo is my vote. Was it singing? This helps.
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Hutton's eyering is broken on top, similar to kinglet. I agree with Cassin's Vireo.
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First impression was vireo from the "solitary" group - so as JCWings says, Cassin's for me.
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