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Old Saturday 7th July 2007, 18:39   #1
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Hawk ID Southern California

This shouldn't be that difficult, but I can't find a picture of ANY hawk with the solid brown head coloring like this one. I think I need to invest in some better books!

A juvenile of some sort maybe?
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Old Saturday 7th July 2007, 19:23   #2
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hm... thats a very interesting bird. His feathers are so worn it looks like he went through a tornado. My best guess would be a Red-tailed Hawk, though it might also be a swainsons but this birds bill seems to large for a swainsons.
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Quite a few of our Red-tailed Hawks here in Missouri sport an all brown head.

I think your bird is a Red-tailed Hawk.
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Old Saturday 7th July 2007, 21:41   #4
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My best guess would be a Red-tailed Hawk, though it might also be a swainsons but this birds bill seems to large for a swainsons.
Are Swainson's typically more slender? Can't tell if this one is actually larger or does it look that way because it's feathers are ruffled.
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Old Saturday 7th July 2007, 22:43   #5
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Your bird is a Red-tailed Hawk - of western race calurus.
Red-tailed Hawk shows much individual and geographic variation and there are at least three dark and six light morphs. Western calurus usually differ from eastern borealis in having a dark throat with a darker head and more rufous and barring on underparts. The wellknown 'belly-band' of Red-tailed is often wider than on eastern birds but can be absent. The tail on your bird seems to be all whitish, usually reddish on adults - which your bird seems to be (dark eye - paler on young birds and younger adults) and lacking a dark subterminal band.

Some western Red-tails:

http://www.pbase.com/garrettlau/redtailedhawk&page=all

Swainson´s Hawk is also a variable hawk and apart from a different plumage it has long wings extendin past the tail tip:

http://www.pbase.com/marykayrubey/image/58148722

Although on western Red-tails wing-tip usually reach the tail tip (shorter on eastern) on your bird the wing tip extends past the tail tip - but that is mainly because the tail is worn.

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Thanks JanJ, lots of good info. Even looking at the gallery you linked to, it's difficult to tell them apart, but I can see the defining points you make.
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