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Old Tuesday 17th July 2007, 22:36   #1
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Andy's field sketches

here's some stuff from last night out of our conservatory window.
I had to grab some paper and and drawing impliment quickly so
thats why the first is pen and ink on printer paper.


Today, been itching to get out for a while
and just havent had the chance .Today though just couldn't stand
it so escaped from the bigger studio stuff to pop down the road
on my local patch to Saltram House and the river .

Found some Shelduck and egrets in the old flooded meadow, it was windy
and the dambed scope was moving alot which did'nt help much
but I managed to get these done too.

Let me know what you think , Always looking for more tips.
and observations you just stand still otherwise.
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Old Tuesday 17th July 2007, 22:50   #2
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Remarkable work, Andrew. Absolutely superb.
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Old Tuesday 17th July 2007, 22:57   #3
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Absolutely stunning, the Little Egrets are superb
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wow! those egrets are excellent indeed. Such strong drawing.
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 00:37   #5
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Great start to what I am sure will be a stunning thread. Wonderful sketches, the wing flapping egrets are remarkable. Shelducks are stunning also.

Great to have you on board and really looking forward to more here!
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 01:11   #6
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These are really nice. Everything looks great. I like the shading on the egrets and shelducks.

I like that you have gotten so many positions and have done them so well.

Can't wait to see more!
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 06:28   #7
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Terrific work Andrew. You really dont need tips from anyone!

Out of interest what size pad are you using?

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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 06:30   #8
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Amazing Andrew, so much movement in the Egrets.Give us more please.

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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 09:34   #9
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Terrific work Andrew. You really dont need tips from anyone!
I'd turn it round the other way - when are we going to gat a masterclass, please?
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 13:57   #10
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WOW... this guy has talent! I'm looking forward to seeing more. I love the use of light and shadow and how you have sketched those delicate egret plumes. Will you share more?
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 14:47   #11
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WOW... this guy has talent! I'm looking forward to seeing more. I love the use of light and shadow and how you have sketched those delicate egret plumes. Will you share more?
Much admiring looks from here too.

One of the things that strikes me is that the sketching maestros on this forum shade with straight lines and resist the temptation to bend the lines to follow the form of the bird or to cross-hatch. That seems to be one of the things that makes the drawings so strong and clean. Just musing aloud- it's given me something to think about as well as to admire.
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 17:42   #12
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One of the things that strikes me is that the sketching maestros on this forum shade with straight lines and resist the temptation to bend the lines to follow the form of the bird or to cross-hatch. That seems to be one of the things that makes the drawings so strong and clean. Just musing aloud- it's given me something to think about as well as to admire.
I've noticed this too ... is this something stressed in a formal art education, or something acquired through years of drawing? I'll never understand how you all manage such quick sketches in the field using shading to suggest form instead of hard lines (think Tim's sketching demo!), but the results always end up looking so damn good!
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 18:11   #13
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Superb stuff Andrew, very inspiring - the more the merrier. I love seeing people's field sketches and notes.
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 18:37   #14
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Me too - Great work - got to get down to the river this evening - see if there's anything about!
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 21:55   #15
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Very good use of detail and still retaining jizz and movement.
I am learning a lot by looking at these forums and i will know try to use straight lines as shade.
Keep up ther good work. (though im sure you will)
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Old Wednesday 18th July 2007, 23:38   #16
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One of the things that strikes me is that the sketching maestros on this forum shade with straight lines and resist the temptation to bend the lines to follow the form of the bird or to cross-hatch.
It's just one technique, and it also saves time when sketching a quick rendition of what you are seeing. It's interesting to note that I almost don't notice this at first glance, rather, I notice the fact that shadow is correctly placed on the subject in the proper places. Hey... what do you know, those are lines!
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Old Thursday 19th July 2007, 09:18   #18
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Well people I'm Overwhelmed by your praise! um wot can say thanks.

I will continue to post when I can. This last few weeks that I've been
on the forum I've felt a change in my artwork direction , mostly becuase of
conversation in these threads. My work is very much been driven
by market demand particularly for my Bird of prey paintings but although
this has given me alot of success in a small field its not been good
for my developement sometimes as an artist. I need to broaden my palette
and starting to field sketch more than I was with other subjects seems to
be helping.

I admire Robert Bateman alot but am very concious that there are alot of
people who wish to paint like him. Its not the way to go and although many
people will probably look and compare my style with his work I am trying to
break free from the influence and slowly develope my own style.

I will post some of my older works to illustrate this.

For me though Robert Is the wildlife master of our time and I fear
for me this influence will never go.

I recomened people read his thoughts on painting essay featured
on his sight.


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I've noticed this too ... is this something stressed in a formal art education, or something acquired through years of drawing? I'll never understand how you all manage such quick sketches in the field using shading to suggest form instead of hard lines (think Tim's sketching demo!), but the results always end up looking so damn good!
To answer your question Jomo, I think its just something that developes from
the need to get shaded area's down quickly to suggest form Nothing more.
It certainly was'nt something taught to me formally.


One thing also which I think helps develope your field work drawings
( and I know not everyone will agree with me)
is to do more when you return home using referance you may have aquired
befor or aditional photo's you may have taken on sight. It should not take
anything away from your field work only add to your understanding of your
subject.

Thanks again guy's for your comments
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Terrific work Andrew. You really dont need tips from anyone!

Out of interest what size pad are you using?

Woody
Woody I've been using a mixture, The nightjar stuff and Egret sketches were
done in a Daler-Rowney Black covered pad around A4 size on 150g/m
acid free paper, The other work from Morroco was done on a
Windsor NewtonA3 heavyweight smooth surface cartridge pad.
This is more cumbersome in the field to carry round but I like the
space it gives.
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I guess if I'd read the thread properly, instead of being distracted by the sketches, I would have seen that you said they were on A3!

It's interesting that you mention the extra freedom that the larger space allows. I use those Daler Rowney hardback A4s mostly too, (sometimes sold cheap from Cass Arts in town -£1.95 each!), it's impractical to carry anything much bigger usually. But whenever I get the opportunity I'll always go bigger! (To my shame that's true in Burger king too! )

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I use A4 Daler-Rowner sketchbooks too, the black hardcover ones. They're excellent and although they're a bit pricier than cheapo pads from Tesco, I have no worries about making a mess of them - that's what sketchbooks are for! A5's too small, A3's a bit big for me (going against the flow here).
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Andrew just stumbled across this thread. They are excellent. Such confident, strong drawings.
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Old Friday 20th July 2007, 18:55   #23
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Went back down to Saltram yesterday and did these of the curlew
that gather on Baxton meadow at high tide.

not as good as I had hoped but they were way off so was hard to get a really good view. ( thats my story and I'm sticking to it!)

Got some good photo's today though so that makes up for it a little
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Old Friday 20th July 2007, 19:00   #24
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dammit! I want curlews to draw, and I'd be very pleased to draw them as expertly as this too!
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Some lovely poses -its really inspiring to see such sensitive work.
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