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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 07:51   #1
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raptor silhouette identification

I'm going to try again. I believe there are plenty of birder swots out there who are up to the challenge of identifying raptors by their silhouettes, and probably loads more who are not but are willing to give it a go.

There are 22 species, all of them are found regularly in Spain, but you can only see their silhouettes (taken from real photos). Click on this link and then "special feature raptor silhouettes" and have a go:

http://www.birdinginspain.com/free-b...downloads.html

You'll probably need some clues, so here's the first one:
Number 16 is not a raven.
(there'll be more revealing clues later on if the situation so demands).

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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 08:13   #2
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1) Honey
2) Kestrel
3) Red Kite
4) Osprey
5) Marshharrier
6) Gos
7) ST Eagle
8) Kes
9) Common Buzzard
10) Peregrine
11) Black Kite
13) Bonelli's
14) Monty's
15) Honey
16 Egyptian Vult
17) Another Honey?
18 Peregrine
19 Sprawk
20) Lesser Kes
21 Booted
22 Lammer

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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 08:30   #3
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Hi Tim

Thanks for having a go. I make it 11 correct. 50%. Narrow pass.
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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 08:33   #4
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By the way, do you really live at Sea Palling? Used to be one of my "local patches" whenI lived in Norwich. Do you still see Lesser Whitethroat and Tree Sparows around there?

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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 08:35   #5
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Hi Steve

yes, there are still plenty of Lesser throats around. There are some Tree Sparrows nearby but not many...

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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 08:39   #6
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I can think of a really good clue to help people get all of these, but I won't cheat .

1) Honey Buzzard
2) Rough-legged Buzzard
3) Red Kite
4) Osprey
5) Marsh harrier
6) Goshawk
7) Short-Toed Eagle
8) Eleonora's Falcon
9) Common Buzzard
10) Gyr Falcon
11) Black Kite
12) Booted Eagle
13) Bonelli's Eagle
14) Montagu's Harrier
15) Golden Eagle
16) Egyptian Vulture
17) Hen Harrier
18) Peregrine
19) Sparrowhawk
20) Kestrel
21) Black Vulture
22) Lammergeier
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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 09:37   #7
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Hello!

Thought I'd give it a go as well :) :

1) Honey Buzzard
2)Kestrel
3)Red Kite
4) Osprey
5) Common Buzzard
6) Sparrowhawk (female)
7) Booted Eagle
8) Eleonora's Falcon
9) Short-toed Eagle
10) Eurasian Hobby (??)
11) Black Kite
12) Pallid Harrier (??)
13) Bonelli's Eagle
14) Marsh Harrier
15) Greater Spotted Eagle. Edit: So you say regular eh? Has to be Golden then.
16) Egyptian Vulture
17) Montague's Harrier
18) Peregrine Falcon
19) Levant Sparrowhawk
20) Lesser Kestrel
21) Black Vulture
22) Lammergeier

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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 11:01   #8
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Andrew the best so far with 14 (I'm curious to know about your unused cheating system Andy).
Dimitris 10 (started off well but weak finish)
Nobody's got number 2 right yet!
By the way, RLBuzzard, Gyrfalcon and Levant Sparrowhawk would either be firsts or top notch rarities in Spain!
Another clue: number 5 is not a Marsh harrier, and i think that there's no "e" in the "Montagu's" of Montagu's Harrier
Another try?
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Andrew the best so far with 14 (I'm curious to know about your unused cheating system Andy).
I have a feeling I've seen this plate of silhouettes before - although I don't have the possible source to hand.
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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 11:28   #10
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12) BW Kite?
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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 19:20   #11
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It's actually a unique set of plates - I did it myself.
As for number 12 - no sorry, not BSKite, although BSK is there somewhere (nobody's spotted it yet though).
More clues - number 5 has got a big head and number 2 is hovering but it's not a kestrel or lesser kestrel.

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Old Sunday 22nd July 2007, 19:27   #12
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2 is I presume the BW Kite.

12 I had down as Sparrowhawk.

I'll look at the rest when I get chance and post a full list, honest!
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Old Monday 23rd July 2007, 07:46   #13
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Nice quiz! 7, 12, and 13 have me particularly stumped, but I'll try anyway

1) Honey Buzzard
2) Black-winged Kite (thanks to MSA)
3) Red Kite
4) Osprey
5) Booted Eagle
6) Goshawk
7) Bonelli's Eagle
8) Eleonora's Falcon
9) Short-toed Eagle
10) Hobby
11) Black Kite
12) Common Buzzard
13) Hen Harrier
14) Montagu's Harrier
15) Golden Eagle
16) Egyptian Vulture
17) Marsh Harrier
18) Peregrine
19) Sparrowhawk
20) Lesser Kestrel
21) Griffon Vulture
22) Lammergeier
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Old Monday 23rd July 2007, 08:26   #14
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Congratulations Cajanuma!
14 correct, the equal highest so far! And one or two careless mistakes which I'm sure you could correct, e.g. have Booted Eagles got large, owl-like heads?
My wife says I've made this quiz too difficult. I hope someone can get close to getting them all so I can show her she's not always right!
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Old Monday 23rd July 2007, 13:14   #15
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My attempt -

1. Honey Buzzard
2. Black-winged Kite
3. Red Kite
4. Osprey
5. Short-toed Eagle
6. Goshawk
7. Booted Eagle
8. Hobby
9. Bonelli's Eagle
10. Peregrine
11. Black Kite
12. Common Buzzard
13. Hen Harrier
14. Mantagu's Harrier
15. Golden Eagle
16. Egyptian Vulture
17. Marsh Harrier
18. Merlin
19. Sparrowhawk
20. Common Kestrel
21. Griffon Vulture
22. Lammergeier
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Old Monday 23rd July 2007, 16:44   #16
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I'm stumped on 12 and 13 and 17, I think that I've mixed up me Buzzards.

1. Honey Buzzard
2. Short Toed Eagle
3. Red Kite
4. Osprey
5. Black Winged kite
6. Goshawk
7. Booted Eagle
8. Hobby
9. Bonelli's Eagle
10. Peregrine
11. Black Kite
12. Common Buzzard
13. Imperial Eagle
14. Montagu's Harrier
15. Golden Eagle
16. Egyptian Vulture
17. Marsh Harrier
18. Kestrel
19. Sparrowhawk
20. Lesser Kestrel
21. Griffon Vulture
22. Lammergeier
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Old Monday 23rd July 2007, 19:38   #17
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Right, Desgreene (Des?) = 17
Pe'rigin (got that one right!) = 14
Congratulations both, the first (by a clear 3 points)and equal second highest so far.
Only 5 away from a full house.
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Old Monday 23rd July 2007, 21:00   #18
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Not looking at previous answers (not much help without knowing which are correct anyway!) -

1. Honey Buzzard
2. Black-shouldered Kite
3. Red Kite
4. Osprey
5. Short-toed Eagle
6. Sparrowhawk
7. Booted Eagle
8. Kestrel
9. Common Buzzard
10. Peregrine
11. Black Kite
12. Sparrowhawk
13. Bonelli's Eagle
14. Montagu's Harrier
15. Golden Eagle
16. Egyptian Vulture
17. Marsh Harrier
18. Kestrel
19. Sparrowhawk
20. Lesser Kestrel
21. Griffon Vulture
22. Lammergeier

Great quiz by the way, Steve!
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15) Could be Spanish Imperial Eagle...
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15) Could be Spanish Imperial Eagle...
I guess so, but ruled it out as I thought the forewing was too straight..

No doubt all will become clear eventually!
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if i waded through everybodies answers and scores i could probably improve this but...

1 honey buzz
2 common kes
3 black kite
4 osprey
5 short-toed eagle
6 goshawk
7 booted eagle
8 hobby
9 common buzzard
10 peregrine
11 red kite
12 ???
13 hen harrier
14 monty
15 golden eagle
16 egyptian vulture
17 marsh harrier
18 eleonora's falcon
19 sprawk
20 lesser kes
21 griffon
22 lammergeier
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Great try Mark!
8 out of 10 in the first 10 (if you use sparrowhawk three times you'll get it wrong at least twice)
9 out of 12 in the second part (kestrel wrong twice!). That makes 17, equal highest so far.
James 14 out of 22
It's getting very close now! In general the biggest stumbling blocks appear to be 8, 12 and 18, but if I remember correctly at least 1 attempt has got it right for 8 and 18, although none for 12.
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Great try Mark!
8 out of 10 in the first 10 (if you use sparrowhawk three times you'll get it wrong at least twice)
9 out of 12 in the second part (kestrel wrong twice!). That makes 17, equal highest so far.
James 14 out of 22
It's getting very close now! In general the biggest stumbling blocks appear to be 8, 12 and 18, but if I remember correctly at least 1 attempt has got it right for 8 and 18, although none for 12.
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So I'm assuming there's only one of each species then! Didn't twig to that before. I'll have another look...
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Old Wednesday 25th July 2007, 10:57   #24
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If nobody else wants to try and beat 17 out of 22 I'll reveal the answers tomorrow.
Any late takers?
Special attention to the falcons and number 12.

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i'll have a go later steve, with some books and a thinking cap on
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